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Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 10:51:25 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Craiglist.. investor
To:serv-187481075@craigslist.org

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:


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Hello:

what do you have, and what kind of return can I expect??

thanks

Marc


Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:24:05 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Craiglist.. investor
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

I buy and sell high-end show horses. I have done this for the past ten years for myself - have always put my own money into it. I started with a loan for the bank for $3200, and now I own two that cost $80 and $90K.  I have obviously made money doing this. I am currently looking for an investor because I don't have enough inventory - I am turning people away on a daily basis - the thought of that is killing me. I am attaching a business plan and spreadsheet that outline the basics. The model is for $500K and the spreadsheets for $275K (shows the variations), but that amount is not required to get involved. I can tailor a project to meet an investors specific financial needs. If they want to start with one or six - it is up to them, and we plan around that. I am sure there will be some follow up questions - please don't hesitate to call or set up a meeting. I am highly motivated, have spent hours scouting horses to get started with and would be happy to share those videos if there is any interest. My schedule is flexible, therefore, I will be happy to accommodate you. Heather


Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:25:34 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Craiglist.. investor
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

These are some projects I would like to get involved with immediately.

I currently have several customers looking for horses and I have nothing to show them. I am trying to change that as quickly as possible. One customer from California is flying here in a couple of weeks and is looking for six horses. I do not want to send him somewhere else! There is a customer in Miami looking for a horse in the $300K range, one in South Carolina looking for one for $150K, and a different client in California looking for one in the $150K range as well. These are all deals that could be wrapped up by the end of August. I have horses that I have found that more than fit the bill and are very profitable, but I don't have enough pennies in my piggy bank to do it alone. This is just one month out of the whole year and the circuit here doesn't even get booming until November!!

Heather


Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 12:41:04 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Craiglist.. investor
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hi Heather:

I don't particarly care to get into the horse business, but definitely interested in making a quick return on investment (legally) Im looking at your figures, but need a better explanation...
Are you local in south florida so I could meet with you?


Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 13:44:03 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Craiglist.. investor
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Yes - I am in Wellington. I do understand the investment is more in me than the horses. I am around the rest of the afternoon if you want to call. I can elaborate better on the phone or in person. Thanks

Heather
561-847-5062


Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:35:59 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Craiglist.. investor
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hi Heather:

OK, I looked at it again... bear with me I've been looking at all kind of investment opportunities and I'm getting a little brain dead....
Your projections look interesting, although I'm wondering why you are holding horses so long 6 months or more and why is a stable so expensive ($1,000 a month) and the Expenses of $2,000 to $4000 a month... what is that?

my understanding is that the money that buys a horse today would not realize a profit until some 6 or more months... then what would my share fo the net profits be?
I need something that generates a revenue right away... or relatively fast...
like: I give you money to buy a horse, you deliver it within a month and pay back my investment and a lucrative interest.

I don't know horses at all, so my thinking may not be realistic.... only because I'm ignorant of your industry....

Unfortunately, this might not be for me unless you can use a fast, very short term loan, $50 to $100K to buy horses.

thanks


Marc


Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:57:49 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Craiglist.. investor
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

This may be exactly what you are looking for. When I did the projections I ALWAYS do a worst case scenario. Most of these horses (especially the last attachment) would be much quicker sales as I already have buyers in mind. These are people I have sold horses to in the past so I have a pretty good idea of what they are looking for.

The monthly expenses are high because the quality of the care is high. Things such as equipment are one time expenses and carry over from horse to horse. Also these estimates are high. It includes everything we would ever need for one horse, but in August I will not be purchasing sheets and blankets for the horses. We purchase equipment as needed, but throughout the year these expenses can be expected. I would rather estimate on the high side!

When I scout out the horses I can tell you this one is salable right away or it is going to be 6 months. Usually the longer term the project the more profitable. Some of these horses are getting sold for $500K+ That is not to say they couldn't have been sold earlier in the game for less money. The business is based on buy low and sell high. The horses I buy are worth more than what we actually pay for them. I then put the "spit and polish" on them (the part that I am better at than most) and market them well - that has been my success!!

I am set up right now to do a couple really quick deals but have no horses to sell. Please if remotely interested lets talk on the phone or meet tomorrow. I can show you the farm, horses, videos, or just give you more of an overview. I know it is Sunday night - happy to talk now - 2 horses flew into Miami Friday night and are released from quarantine tomorrow morning. These are ideal for my client in California!!! This may be exactly what you are looking for.

Heather


Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 17:18:00 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Craiglist.. investor
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

OK Heather,

I'll swing by there tomorrow & meet you...

I'm in hollywood, and I'll be leaving around noon... I can call you before I leave to confirm...

I'm assuming that the address on the PDF summary is where I should meet you.

if you have simple directions from I-95 in Hollywood... otherwise I can mapquest it..


See you tomorrow

Marc


Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 17:57:45 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Craiglist.. investor
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Perfect - those horses are going to stop by here tomorrow - you can see for yourself!!

The address is 14532 Belmont Trace (the other address is where I rented for the winter circuit).

directions:
- get off 95 or turnpike at Lake Worth Rd
- go west; crossover 441; go to the end of Lake Worth Rd
- deadends on South Shore; turn Right
- go through the light at Pierson; go to the second light (Greenview Shores)
- turn left
- take the first left onto Greenbriar
- go down to Wellington Trace; turn right
- take the first left onto Belmont Trace (dirt road)
- first farm on the left
- house and barn have green roof

Look forward to meeting you!

Heather


Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 19:04:28 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Craiglist.. investor
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Here is a list of equipment we would need. I will send you a spreadsheet with just Flemming on it. This shows how the equipment would be broken down and ordered sporatically. We would only get what we need right now. The equipment carries over from horse to horse. I am assuming if I sell a horse and make you money in 30 days that you will want to do it again. The equipment bought in sept. etc... would be with horse number 2 and so on. Hope that makes sense.

Heather


Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 04:21:53 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Craiglist.. investor
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hi Heather...

I forgot that I have service guys coming to look at the air conditioner between 12:00 and 2:00 today...

I'll try to move them around, but I might have to come by a little later.
I do want to come by... I'll let you know...

Sure, If I'm making a decent return and the capital is secure, I'm good to go.

Marc


Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 06:32:47 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Craiglist.. investor
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

They say timing is everything. You walked in at just the right moment. The client in California really wants to buy a horse from me. This is right up his ally!  I live on the farm so please feel free to come anytime today. I am pretty much here all the time. The biggest downfall is I will have to do something quickly with these particular horses. They won't be around long. Look forward to meeting you later.

Heather


I believe we spoke on the phone, and I asked for some references


Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:19:51 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Craiglist.. investor
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

References:

1. Shoshana Gordon    215-806-2378
2. Jeff Channell    817-821-1313
3. Peter King    561-537-9842
4. Nolia Brandt    850-322-8698
5. Catherine Cuzzone    401-230-5256
6. Sal Capone    914-424-1987
the last one is sick with a sore throat. if you want to talk to him maybe call and verify who you are speaking with then converse on the email.

Is this sufficient??


Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:21:02 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Craiglist.. investor
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Who do they represent....?

do you have a florida driver's license?
and other valid ID?

thanks


Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:59:35 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Craiglist.. investor
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

1. Shoshana Gordon = fellow horse associate
2. Jeff Channell = fellow horse associate
3. Peter King = Investor
4. Nolia Brandt = helped with business planning
5. Catherine Cuzzone = have worked for on occasion
6. Sal Capone = friend

Yes I have a valid drivers license and other forms of ID.


Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 04:40:50 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Craiglist.. investor
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

do you have a copy of hte agreement that you use, so I can look it over?

thanks

any business ref, like the vet... the supplie store....
the insurance co....


Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 05:50:49 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Craiglist.. investor
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Here is the purchase agreement.

I gave you the references of people I knew there number off the top of my head. I accidentally dropped my phone in the pool on Friday and got a new phone on Saturday. As a result I lost about 350 numbers that had been stored in the phone. I will try to go online to get some other numbers for you it is just going to be a little more time consuming as I will have to pull them off my past bills. Sorry for the inconvenience; I am praying my water logged phone will turn back on once it is dryed out.

Jeff Channell is my farrier - he can vouch for the fact I pick good horses, sell horses, and pay my bills on time. He has worked for me for about 3 years. He can probably also ease your mind that I am not going anywhere.

Shoshana Gordon is someone I have bought and sold horses with. She can also vouch for my business tactics.

Beverly Rys (pronounced Reese) manages Gold Coast Feed Store. They have been supplying me for the last 4 years. 561-793-4607


Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 06:08:01 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Craiglist.. investor
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

"Jeff Channell is my farrier - he can vouch for the fact I pick good horses, sell horses, and pay my bills on time. He has worked for me for about 3 years. He can probably also ease your mind that I am not going anywhere."

Bingo, that's what I want to hear....!

let me look at the agreement..

Marc


Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 06:12:05 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Craiglist.. investor
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

perfect -


Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 09:39:52 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Craiglist.. investor
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Do we need to make any modifications to the contract?


Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:39:48 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Craiglist.. investor
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

No, I'm checking references...

where wil the horse be tomorrow.... I'd like ot see him
and is the bank wire going to a US bank?
which bank?

is the seller Newman Inc based in the US?

marc


Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:36:27 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Craiglist.. investor
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

The horse will arrive here about 5PM today (leaving Miami today about 3). I have to let them know what my plans are = either purchase or pass. If we are going to follow through then we would make some payment arrangements. I would be happy for you to come and see him; this afternoon or early morning tomorrow would be the best.

US Bank - Regions Bank in Pace, Florida
Newman Inc is the name of the business that the horses are run through. (Just as mine is Griffon Gate)

Heather


Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:01:59 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Craiglist.. investor
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Waiting for 4 call backs....

Beverly gave a great reference!

Feeling better already :-)


Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 11:37:15 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Craiglist.. investor
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

No worries

Heather

Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:24:01 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Craiglist.. investor
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Horses got here safe and sound.


Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 05:35:59 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Craiglist.. investor
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Great!

Can't wait to see them...


Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 11:36:53 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Craiglist.. investor
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Here is a copy of insurance app. for Flemming. I am also attaching the picture I have of Travis. Will send you other info shortly.


Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:52:23 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Craiglist.. investor
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Good!


Transfer is done..


Marc


Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 13:41:44 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Craiglist.. investor
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

if (big if) Travis has something going on him - here is an 8 year old I would also give my right arm to have!! See how close his knees are to his chin - He is a FABULOUS jumper. This horse is priced the same as Travis ($100K) and would be comparable in value. He would go on the market for a minimum of $200K. I will continue to forward you info.

Heather


I explained to Heather that I could not afford a $100K investment, but mentioned that one of my cousins might be interested

Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:17:20 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Craiglist.. investor
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

OK,

But if we ca go with Travis only because I've already sent him the pic you sent... don't want to cause confusion....

Got more pics (larger ones preferably) of Travis...?

thanks


Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 15:44:26 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: August bill
To:ebaytradenews@yahoo.com

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

I didn't hear from you again so I assume there were no complications with sending the money.

Here is the first bill. I did go ahead and include the first insurance payment - I will make that in about 2 weeks.

I will continue to forward you the other info you asked for.

Heather


Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:16:28 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: August bill
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hi,

I did send you a message that the transfer had been done...
no, there was no problem with the transfer...
Yaeh, I need more pictures of Travis.... if I'm to get someone to send me $100K for it.... don't forget the pasport info... and expected time of sale and amount...

thanks

Marc


Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:17:56 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: August bill
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

working on it now.


Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:17:04 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: August bill
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hi,

btw, you didn't attach the bill....

Marc


Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:19:10 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: August bill
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Sorry


Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 20:53:14 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Craiglist.. investor
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Very strange - I just got these two emails.
I am attaching Travis' passport. The only reason I brought up the other is I mentioned someone else might be interested in buying Travis already. Both horses are extremely nice - comes down to the money ( like everything else). I will try to get some more photos of Travis tomorrow. I have been doing paperwork ALL day - just now finishing. I will get those to you asap. If he is truly interested he should probably get the money moving for convenience purposes. Talk to you tomorrow.

Congratulations on your purchase.

Heather


Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 20:05:46 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: pictures of travis
To:ebaytradenews@yahoo.com

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Here are some pics we took today.

You bought a fabulous horse!!!! I rode him today - he rode as if he lived here his entire life - he was awesome!

Heather

Attached, 3 pictures of Travis


Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 04:27:03 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: pictures of travis
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Oh that's great Heather!

I was thinking about you & Flemming :-)
can't wait to come & see him again

Been really busy, sending you a check today.

will talk to my cousin today & send him photos of Travis... He looks good!

Later

Marc


Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 05:24:38 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: pictures of travis
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

How did you do with your cousin? I have to let them know Monday if we are going to do anything. I hate that we are that pressed for time but they have had 100 phone calls about these 3 horses. Just let me know.

Flemming is great - once he gets a little fatter I will take some photos and send them to you. Thanks

Heather


Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 06:35:49 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: pictures of travis
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

unfortunately, it's a no go at this time with my cousin...

I'll see if I can get someone else to grab it or to split it with me..
60/40...

how long would we have to hold him?

Marc


Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 07:03:41 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: pictures of travis
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

He is so nice he could go on the market right away for 200K. He is the type that no matter how long you have him he will continue to increase in value. If we had him 6 months which is more ideal he will be at least 300K. I would start showing him to people right away for 200 though and each day/week/month he would get more expensive. Not trying to pressure you in the least just wanted you to know the time frame. Thanks

Heather


Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 07:50:25 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: pictures of travis
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

OK,

I'm looking around for investors with that kind of cash.

thanks

Marc


Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 09:56:49 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: pictures of travis
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Thanks I appreciate all your help!!

Heather


Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 13:00:35 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: video
To:ebaytradenews@yahoo.com

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Video

attached, a video of Travis


Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 04:37:02 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: video
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey,

not able to play it for soem reason... will keep trying..



lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Are you at all interested in doing half of Travis? Did you have any luck with anyone elses involvement? Just checking in with you to see where we are - if anywhere.

Thanks - Heather


Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 19:40:58 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Travis
To:ebaytradenews@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 08:47:21 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Travis
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey:

Had no luck finding anyone yet....

I can't do 1/2, got other projects in the works...

I could possibly spare $25k at the most..... but I couldn't sit on it very long...

let me know if that helps..

Marc


Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 10:10:44 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Travis
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

That may be helpful; I am trying to sort it out where maybe you and I can do it together. Waiting to hear back from my accountant. I will stay in touch about this. Thanks so much.

Heather


Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 13:00:18 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Travis
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

hey,...
ok, if you have a buyer waiting to buy it (within a week or two MAX) I can probably go $40K... but not a penny more! He's going to have to eat Alpo... lol


Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 05:42:55 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Travis
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

okay sounds good


There were a few phone conversations where Heather told me about Silco, that was as talented as Travis but a little less money and that she had a buyer for him, right away... She didn't want him to slip by.... We were to split the cost of Siclo $75,000 and expenses. At the sale we would split the revenue and she would waive her normal commission

Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 06:36:29 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Travis
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey...

Still thinking about it... I'll call you when I get back from the Gym..

Marc


Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 06:01:50 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: purchase agreement
To:ebaytradenews@yahoo.com

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Sorry I didn't get this to you last night - didn't finish last night until 11.

Can you sign and scan it and send - I will do the same. I will scan and send back as a pdf with both signatures.

Heather

attached, Silco purchase agrement


Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 06:29:16 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Silco August bill
To:ebaytradenews@yahoo.com

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

I still haven't gotten any of the stuff I ordered yet but will forward you the receipts as soon as it starts arriving.

Heather


Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 07:01:45 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: purchase agreement
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

I can't scan from here

print it & sign it (2 copies) and mail it to me... I'll sign a copy and send it back to you.... so we'll have original signatures...

thanks

MArc


Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 07:08:45 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Silco August bill
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

OK, don't forget photos...

I'm trying to get other investors...

How do you market these horses? give me a few lines of what you would email some prospective buyers for flemming or silco...

thanks


Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 09:17:33 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Silco August bill
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

for marketing I will make video clip that I can put on a DVD and email. I will have pictures on hand and I make a lot of phone calls. Once you know if people are looking for that type of horse you then send the photos and videos. If they like what they see they set an appointment to come and see/ride (test drive) the horse. They only get to ride them a few times then they have to decide. If they are going to purchase the horse the vet will then come and look over the horse, take x-rays. Once the horse has been cleared (a couple days - week) the buyer wires money to us. This all takes place pretty quickly.

When I talk to people about these two horses I would give them a general description: - Flemming is a 16.1 hand, 7 year old, bay, gelding. He is beautiful, very simple to ride, extremely quiet, not spooky, great mover, good jumper, eligible for all divisions at the horse show but ready to do the 3'6". He could live at home - does not need a professional ride.

- Silco is a 16.2 hand, 8 year old, bay, gelding. He is also beautiful, easy, quiet, floats across the ground, not spooky, fabulous mover, good jumper, eligible for all divisions at the horse show but ready to do the 3'6". Does not need a professional ride - live at home.

I would say these horses are comparable in quality yet different feel to ride. Both have good soft mouths.

We are going to try to take some photos this afternoon.

Heather


Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 13:34:55 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: pictures
To:ebaytradenews@yahoo.com

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

I have not forgotten your pictures - been rained out!! Will try again tomorrow.

Heather


Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 07:18:30 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: pictures
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

OK, no problem....

getting your check in the mail today...

Was so busy yesterday, ran of time...

May have another investor, if I can find time to get together with her...

Marc


Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 09:29:32 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: pictures
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Sounds great - I can always find time to meet with someone - just let me know when. Thanks for everything! Horses are wonderful - I think there are 4 seperate customers coming this week to look at them.

Heather


Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:40:24 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: pictures
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Great!

I may set up an office and just work on getting investors... What could we work out to where we both make money at it yet not eat too much of the investor's profit....

could we just make the commission a bit higher and split it? or do you have any ideas that work for you? I don't want to make it complicated for you...

lmk


Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:13:27 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: pictures
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

That sounds awesome for me!!!

Standard rate now is really 15% on sales for the horse business. We could set it up that way and you and I could split that. I think that is fair to everyone involved. I have no problem sharing. The more horses we have the more horses I can sell. It works well for all those involved.

Fabulous idea!!

Heather


Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 18:23:21 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: pictures
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Great!

WHat I can do is set up a small office to meet investors, and start advertising in the Major newspapers for serious investors...
I can take them to the farm (yes.. I'll do some work too...lol) introduce them to you.. show them horses and get them intersted,,,,,

we'll see how it works out..

Thanks

MArc


Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 18:25:04 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: pictures
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

sounds good - please try to keep it a little confidential til you know if they are legit. I am sure you know what I mean. Looking forward to this.

Heather


Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 05:43:35 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: pictures
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

OK, I will..

don't want to drive all the way there with idiots for nothing..

I'll make sure they are interested first.

got a few pictures for me? I already have travis... but could use better one of Flemmingh and some of SIlco...

show them pictures would be a good start....

thanks


Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 18:52:55 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: meeting?
To:ebaytradenews@yahoo.com

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Do I have a meeting with the lady? If so - when? Sorry - I was not completely clear. Just let me know

Heather


Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:05:46 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: pictures
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

photo shoot tomorrow morning before 9 - finally!!

I thought this might be useful information for you should you speak to someone that is interested in this.

Heather

Attached was a list of avalalble horses and their cost & resell price

Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 04:38:00 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: pictures
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey...

that's great!

I can work with this... now if you could send me some nice pics of Flemmingh, Silco and others that are now available for sale I can probably make a simple website for people to go to instead of me attaching photos to emails..

Also send a brief description to put with their pictures and the asking price.

and as soon as one of mine sells, (I'm not pushing) I can write my own success story on the web site.... that will help a lot....

Thanks

Marc


Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:11:50 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: pictures to go with list
To:ebaytradenews@yahoo.com

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

The names match up to the list.

attached were pictures of the horses on the list


Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 08:41:57 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: pictures
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Pictures are taken - will get them to you this afternoon.

Horses were fabulous this morning!! This morning led to a really legitimate customer coming on Wednesday to look at all the horses. Because they are all different types of horses - we have a shot at selling them several. I will keep you posted and will get the rest of that info to you this afternoon.

Heather


Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 08:57:07 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: pictures
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Ah Terrific!

What great news! :-)

I'll start shopping a classy Office to meet potential investors
and may even put an ad in the papers for the weekend...

IF you sell one of mine, let's take $100K and buy the best horse on the list...

thanks

Marc


Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 09:17:15 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Great News
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

OK, don't take this as anything other than encouragement & great potential.

this girl is an investment broker, she's the one I was telling you about...

Hi Marc,
Sorry, it has been crazy hectic here. I am in the process of dealing with an eviction of a tenant from one of my properties and I am on the Board for another complex that is getting storm windows installed and I have to supervise. All this on top of dealing with my clients needs and the contractors remodeling the kitchen in my main house. Regarding the horses, let me know when you are planning on going to the barn in Wellington. I think you mentioned you might go this weekend? I want to go to the barn and check it out. I am definatley interested.
..... blah .... blah........

Natalie

OK, so how does Sunday sound? I have not set it up with her yet but I can call her and try to set it up for Sunday.... I'm going to email some of my more affluent friends and see if there is any interest there...

let me know

Marc


Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:53:47 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Great News
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Bring her on up. The afternoon is a little better as the barn gets cleaned around noon. I am here riding pretty much all day so let me know if that suits your schedule.

Heather


Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:18:29 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Great News
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Here are some pictures of Silco.

Attached a zip file of Silco


Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 08:47:34 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Great News
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Thanks

Let's see what I can whip up!

[Was creating a Web Site to promote the horses to investors]


Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:24:25 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Great News
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Pictures of Flemmingh.


Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 09:23:53 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Great News
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Shoot!

Wouldnt you know it, there's a header problem with your zip, I can't open it..
looks like you got a lot of pics.... :-(

Send the individually when you have time..

also, I'm going to bombard the Crailist for investors, I'm having someone post in 50 or more cities for me, for investors..

what states or cities you think are best for Horse lovers..

thanks

Marc


Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 09:48:24 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Great News
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey, hey...

could you resend me those pics when you get a chance?

thanks

Marc


Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 19:59:57 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Great News
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

sorry - been completely swamped - which is good.

here are the pictures

horses were fabulous today. Customers coming back tomorrow

Heather


Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 05:25:32 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Great News
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Alright!

these are beautiful! :-)
I'm working on a website: http://OffTheWallinvestments.com
where I'll send prospective investors to look at the pics... I'll let you know when it's ready to go... it's under construction now..

Also, I finally reached an agreement for the print shop I was trying to buy..

I can have it for $995,000! So I need to come up with as much down payment as possible...
if you can push (not dump, I'm not desperate... OK a little bit!) Flemmingh or Silco so I have some cash to use a deposit for the mortgage co... that would be great...

I will probably place ads in the paper for this weekend to see what happens...
I still need to know which major cities you think would be a good place to advertise for prospective investors that like horses

btw, Natalie is interested but she wants to see me make a profit first...
she's cautious, a typical CPA... I think she'll buy one, once I tell her that I sold mine and made a profit.. She's a CPA and helps some of her clients invest in various ventures.. so you never know she could turn out to be a good connection... just never know.

lmk

thanks

Marc


Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 12:11:38 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Great News
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Horses are fabulous!!! Flemming's feet are a little sore - just an adjustment to the sand - no big deal. He has people standing in line to buy him! I think he will be done next week!! Silco is also great. I don't think these particular people have a customer for Silco but have other people coming in for him. Thanks for everything - talk to you soon.

Heather


Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 10:30:52 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Great News
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey Heather:

Just saying hi and sending you a link to my Off The Wall site...
it's not done yet, but somewhat functional...

http://offthewallinvestments.com/

later

Marc


Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 11:08:33 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Great News
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

The site looks great but I don't think we can advertise the horses like that. The horses that we own can be advertised like that but we can not put horses not owned by us on a website - especially using their names. If for no other reason - some of those horses we don't want the people that currently own them to realize how valuable they are. I am not sure what the solution is but I am pretty certain that is not going to be good for anyone. I think if you want to have pictures on hand to show people what they could purchase after meeting them in person that would be fine. I don't want to give too much information to people until we decide they are a worthy partner as I am fairly selective as to who to get involved with.

Truthfully not sure if your horses should have their names on there where people can read that and get a sense of what you paid for the horse. That info is not disclosed and I would hate for someone to start making offers that allow you to make money but cut down the profit margin significantly because they know about what you paid for it. I don't know - I like the idea but this may be too much info up front. If you google one of those horses names - if they are persistant enough they will get to that site. It is entirely up to you but sometimes I have found less is better.

Hope this all makes sense.

Heather


Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 13:39:26 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Great News
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

OK, I understand.

I'll try a different way... I'd just like to show potential investors something...

So, I'll remove Felmmingh & Silco... I'm not selling horses, that's your end..

I'll leave the ones available for investments, but not have any prices at all and will not emphasize the incredible ROI so much. No one knows about the site, I don't plan on marketing it or listing it on the search engines..

Just a place to send potential investors, via a link.

Marc


Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 14:51:28 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Great News
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

I don't have any problem with you trying to sell your horses too but I don't want it to bite us in the ____ . Don't want to broadcast over the internet so that people that we buy horses from or people buying horses from us catch on to the numbers involved.

I don't have a problem leaving the pictures of potential horses on there just remove their names. That way if someone googles their horse to look up some results or something they don't get to you. (Before we have ever bought the thing).

Please don't get me wrong - I love a lot of what you have done and am excited about the potential but want to make sure we aren't giving away all our secrets.

Horses are great. Website looks great - talk to you soon.

Heather


Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 14:46:47 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Great News
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

OK..

I made some changes to the home page, let me kow if you object to anything there... It's a draft, and can be changed easily. I'm just trying to tell investors why this is better than stocks, or Real Estate and get them interested in this type of venture.

Tomorrow, I'll make the page with the horses password protected... no one will see it unless they have a password. I removed Flemmingh & Silco but left the horses that interested parties can invest in... is that OK with you?

thanks

Marc


Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 14:57:45 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Great News
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

I think you can leave the photos of your horses on there - again though I would remove their names. I don't think people will really stumble onto this without looking for "investments" other than googling the names of the horses. We often try to look up the horses record that way. The photos show the quality of the horses, but their names are not necessary at that point. Once you talk to people you can run over the specs of each horse with them (names, prices, etc.). That will entice them into an actual meeting and hopefully a trip up to the farm. What do you think of that?

Heather


Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 17:14:45 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Great News
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey:

well after thinking about it, Flemmingh & Silco are for sale to end users, not investors (we are the investors) so they don't need to be on there... to confuse

although, I could do a page of fine horses that you/we have handles just because they are beautiful horses....

I'll remove the names and just put numbers so they can be referenced.

And yes, the photos are meant to show that we have really exceptional horses...
I'm sure that someone into horses will see that by the photos...

I'm trying to avoid taking people up to the farm unless they really want to
because it can take quite a bit of your time... But if I do take someone else up, you don't have to spend too time with them... Just show the horse that are available and the expected sales figure.

I only bring them up so they can be sure it's for real.... That there is in fact a farm and horses. I don't expect anyone to just hand me $75,000 to $100,000 on my say so...

I was thinking that I could place ads for investors and refer them to the site so they can see what the investment is about and ask me questions. I'm hoping that I can get you more horses (money to buy horses) than you can handle :-)

I've been looking for office space in Boca where I can meet potential investors and bring them up if needed. I'll hire an assistant to generate leads for me and see how that works out....

btw don't worry too much about google, I don't think I'd ever show up. btu to be safe, I'll put a block so that their crawlers won't index my site.... The pages have no meta tags (what google use to index a site) they dont even have titles...

Later

Marc


Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 17:19:25 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Great News
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

sounds great
I think eliminating the names should be fine.
Looking forward to more work!!

Heather


Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 18:25:31 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: bills for september - sorry
To:ebaytradenews@yahoo.com

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

I am getting ready to start scanning the receipts so I should have those to you late tonight or tomorrow. That will come as a pdf with several pages - includes the whole month.

The horse trials for Wednesday have obviously been pushed back a couple of days due to the storm. There is so much interest in all the horses I don't think you will get any more bills beyond this. I am overnighting a dvd of Silco to a girl in CA. She is trying to get here the mid part of the week next week so no one else sees him first! Business is good!!

I think you should def. put pictures of your horses on the website but just don't put too much info with it. Can't wait to see the finished product.

Thanks for everything; I am going to finish a dvd this week of all the horses - weather permitting. I will get you a copy as it may be a useful tool for you to show to potential investors.

Heather


Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 08:35:07 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: bills for september - sorry
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

I am getting ready to start scanning the receipts so I should have those to you late tonight or tomorrow. That will come as a pdf with several pages - includes the whole month.

OK, I'll look for it

The horse trials for Wednesday have obviously been pushed back a couple of days due to the storm. There is so much interest in all the horses I don't think you will get any more bills beyond this.

Great! Evreyting I have is tied up in CDs
I'm going to be on the highway with my Homeless sign pretty soon, hey, maybe I can share a stall with Flemmingh :-)

I am overnighting a dvd of Silco to a girl in CA. She is trying to get here the mid part of the week next
week so no one else sees him first! Business is good!!

Good, are we making any money yet...? lol

I think you should def. put pictures of your horses on the website but just don't put too much info with it. Can't wait to see the finished product.

OK, but later, right now I'm putting up shutters :-(

Thanks for everything; I am going to finish a dvd this week of all the horses - weather permitting. I will get you a copy as it may be a useful tool for you to show to potential investors.

You welcome!

Heather


Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 08:35:38 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: bills for september - sorry
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

btw,

is that show still planned for this weekend?


Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 08:41:41 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: bills for september - sorry
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

haven't heard yet - doubtful - but with horse people you never know

I doubt we will horse show as the horses will not have been ridden in 3 days (at least depending on how long the rain last). If it is going on we can surely go over and take a look around and at the very least ride the horses here. I will keep you posted. If you can't get me after this weather it prob. means the cable is out. I will try to get in touch with you to let you know about the horse show. Keep you posted and stay dry. We are all boarded up and nailed down up here.

Heather


Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:29:37 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: bills for september - sorry
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

The horse show is still on.

Our horse trials pick up again Wednesday so probably no showing - busy prepping for trials. Obviously more than happy to take you over to the show and show you around.

Just let me know which day and roughly what time. Hope things are going good for you - talk to you soon.

Heather


Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 06:15:17 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: bills for september - sorry
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hi Heather:

Great! I'm not sure what trials entails, and I though the show was on the weekend... Sorry I'm ignorant of your industry but I will learn...

tell me what event you would like to take me to and what day is good for you..
I'll see if I can get Natalie to come.. haven't heard from her lately, hope she hasn't lost interest.

thanks

Marc


Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 06:21:34 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: bills for september - sorry
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

mornings are always very hectic so lets plan one afternoon. Saturday or Sunday - doesn't matter to me.

Heather


Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 12:08:36 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: bills for september - sorry
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

OK, Sunday sounds good for me.

what time should I come by?


Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 14:09:30 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: bills for september - sorry
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

lunchtime or shortly after would be great.

Heather


Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 08:49:43 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: bills for september - sorry
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey, hey...

couple of questions:

I thought you were sending bills... didn't get anything yet.

what specific breed are Flemmingh & Silco?

I was looking at Flemmingh's passport and it seems that I have Silco's passport

Silco's name is on the first page, with Flemmingh as the father...

I wonder if it would be possible to ride him (just around the farm with you maybe) if we ever get sunshine again? Would that be a pain in you butt and would it affect the horse negatively in any way. I've ridden horses before (not show horses, but horses) might even remember how to saddle it...

I'll get you a check out today or tomorrow for Sept. bills. wheather sucks today...don't like to go out in this weather....

and finally, do we have any hot prospects on either horses?

I have most of my investment capital in the horses (and CD's that I can't touch for a while) and I'm sure I'll make a good profit when they sell... but in the meantime, I have nothing to do. (until I get some cash back to work with) I'm bored out of my mind. Let me know how that's looking.

I was going to place ads in the paper for the weekend, but didn't because of labor day. Will place some ads this weekend to get investor leads

later

Marc


Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 10:46:15 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: bills for september - sorry
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Flemming is a Dutch Warmblood. Silco is a Holsteiner.

You have Flemming's passport. It may say Silco as the name but it is Flemming's.
In Europe the horses are very non-personal. He was probably most often referred to as "the Flemming horse" because his father was Flemming.

Silco's passport actually says Rambo which someone probably thought it was an unsuitable name and used Silco instead. We often change their names to something that sounds pleasing. The horses came to me with those names so it has kind of stuck.

As far as riding the horses - Flemming would probably be okay to ride but not during trial periods. We will see what the customer schedule is like when the weather lets up.

I am assuming I am reading this after my phone call to you so I think you know what is going on as far as prospective buyers are concerned.

These are just a few receipts; The bridles, martingales, saddle pads, and polos are all suppose to be arriving today or tomorrow so I will get that right to you.

Thanks for everything.

Heather


Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:04:53 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: bills for september - sorry
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey..

check sent, hold till monday, got to transfer funds...

thanks

Marc


Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 05:44:24 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: bills for september - sorry
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

hey, hey...

Got an ad in the Sun Sentinel for a week... starts tomorrow..
got posting in 50 cities on craiglist, every other days for 2 weeks
Will start an ad in the Maimi Herald midweek for a week

let's see what happens.

did a quick FAQ on the site...
http://offthewallinvestments.com/faq.html

let me know if you object to anyting or if i should add something...

also, I though I understood that flemmingh was going to be vetted after the afjustment.. .. I'm assuming that he is sold???

lmk

thanks

Marc


Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 07:34:48 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: bills for september - sorry
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Very excited about the ads - that sounds great.

Will check out the website this afternoon when i get done riding.

The adjustment was just two days ago; today is the first day i can ride him. We do have an appointment for the people to come and see him one last time before the vetting. That appointment is Thursday next week. Don't feel discouraged at all - the people wanting to buy him call about every three days wanting to know where we stand so I think he is basically sold. There is a list a mile long waiting for him so no worries about him getting gone.

I found another one that is from the same people we got these horses from. This one is someone between Travis and Flemming. It is really nice. $85K to buy. I will keep you posted on that and will cross my fingers for finding someone to buy it through those ads.
Talk to you soon

Heather


Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 09:16:46 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: bills for september - sorry
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey:

I received a bill today from the insurance co, with a balance due of $2,000. can you explain?

also, spoke to my bank today, may be able to get a line of credit to buy a few more horses...

lmk


Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 13:02:00 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: bills for september - sorry
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

You will always get a bill in the mail from the insurance company. The next one will reflect your payment due. I paid the balance owed for both horses with my check card when you gave me the policy number. The computer generates that paperwork regardless. Always a good thing to bring to my attention but most often times it has already been taken care of.

I would be very interested in you having more horses. I am assuming a line of credit keeps the interest low - the turn around is so fast on the horses I don't think that is a bad idea. I have another one we can buy from the same place the ones we already have came from. He is 4 years old and ready to go to the horseshow. His talent level is somewhere between Flemming and Travis. He is obviously very nice! He can ship directly to us next week. I will try to email you part of the dvd clip i have of him. He is of course beautiful.

Have some other ideas but too long to keep typing right now. Will continue later!

Horses are doing awesome! Flemming felt good before he got chiropracted but now feels amazing. Silco continues to amaze me with his day to day work. We are preparing for a very big trial towards the end of the month. He has to perform a little like a robot (on command) with very few mistakes and he has gotten it down pat and loves doing it.

Heather


Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 17:12:58 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: 4 year old bay mare
To:ebaytradenews@yahoo.com

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

This is a 4 year old bay mare that has Cor de la Bryere, Alme, and Accord II in her breeding. That is the highest quality breeding you can find. I have attached the video clip and am trying to confirm a price.

Heather


Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 04:54:40 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 4 year old bay mare
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

WOW!

Looks very nice.... what would you expect to get out of him? do you have buyers for him?

It will be a lot easier to get a large line of credit from the bank, (I'm shooting for $150k) when I can show them that I am making money, (when I get a wire transfer that replaces my original capital of 75k with a decent profit, in a short period of time)

Let's push on Flemmingh or Silco so I can show them some income, and make projections.

I like that horse, what's his name?


Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 08:38:24 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 4 year old bay mare
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

We will know for about Flemming getting done by the end of the week this week. I will obviously be the first to let you know.

I haven't gotten a confirmed price yet - waiting to hear from the owner. That horse is the same quality as Flemming so I would anticipate the immediate price upon arrival here being 125 and as usual would only increase as we went. The chestnut one that I will send you later is even nicer than that. It was hard to compress the video enough to email but think i got it small enough - will send this afternoon.

Don't have a name for the horse yet either. Her breeding is incredible - she has Cor de La Bryere, Alme Z, and Accord II in her family tree. All of those were AMAZING horses!! Talk to you soon.

Heather


Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 16:39:42 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 4 year old bay mare
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey:

the last video you sent worked fine. It was in mpg, but this one, windows says I need a plugin that is not available.. it seems to be in mac format???

I have a pc, windows 2000

thanks


Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 14:27:18 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 4 year old bay mare
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

this is a 4 year old chestnut gelding

attached, video of chestnut horse



lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

This is very interesting. We may miss out but wanted to send anyway.

attached, video of large pony


Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 19:06:24 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: 4 year old pony
To:ebaytradenews@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 05:18:14 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 4 year old pony
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey:

OK, got it working.. Well the video of the pony was more impressive that that of the 4 year old mare. it only made a few small jumps....

I wish I knew more what I'm looking at.... but I believe in you... if you think its good, then it's got to be good.

later


Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 05:23:46 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 4 year old pony
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

yeah they are all quality. We got more footage of the pony because it wasn't emailed. I edited that in the imovie file. The crappy thing about all these is I probably have to make a move by the end of the week on these or someone else will. But it at least gives you an idea and maybe someone will come through from the ad.

Heather


Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 08:43:03 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 4 year old pony
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Well, you never know. The ad runs till friday. ANy could call and be interested at anytime. had an old man yesterday asking for a reference of someone who had bought & sold a horse....

told him I would get back to him on that.
keep your fingers crossed

Marc


Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 10:39:57 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 4 year old pony
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

asked for a reference for me?
I can get you someone's name and number if you need it.

Things are good here. Silco got tried today by one of the "big wigs". He was very good. He loved the horse and said he would be back in a couple of weeks with the kids. He liked him a lot and said to keep doing what we are doing so he has a touch more experience when he gets back. I don't think I can explain to you how big of a deal it would be to sell this guy our horse. For that job - there are three top people to go to - Frank Madden, Missy Clark, and Andre Dignelli. Andre is who came today and Frank Madden is who is coming in 2 weeks. We are on target with the job for Silco and are very excited at him.

Flemming is still on target for Thursday. I will let you know how that goes. Keep me posted as to our abilities to continue to purchase as deals come and go quickly as you know. I will try to check with you before I let things go to make sure that is where we are. Thanks for all your hard work and support.

Heather


Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 12:01:52 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 4 year old pony
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

OK,

if you do have someoen who invested and made a good profit, that would be a good reference.

Great, glad they liked silco... hope they take him at the end of the month.

Well, my cash flow is a bit short, until something sells.

I still have a Print shop that I'm trying to buy to continue publishing my ebay trade publication. It will be ideal when both horses sell. then I can put a small down on the print shop and most likely, be able to buy a horse, or with the extablished cahs flow, I can still apply for the cedit line & possibly keep two horses on hand.

It all depends on how well these 2 do for me. I'll also be able to brag how well I made out with all the investors I speak to.......


Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 16:54:15 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 4 year old pony
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Hi - I have a buyer for a horse we don't have. I have located a horse that will fit the bill. The people have $200K to spend. The horse is $85K to buy. Let me know if we can do something.

Heather


Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 20:12:54 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 4 year old pony
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

How fast can you sell him?

can you get a deposit? or is that something you don't do?
How do we know that they will definitely buy him...?

lmk

I got a call earlier this evening that I missed, I'll call him back tomorrow morning
keep your fingers crossed


Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 20:39:17 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 4 year old pony
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

This is one that I tried to buy this winter for myself. I just didn't really have the budget for it. There are no guarantees but it is like the horses we have now. There has not been a single person through the barn that hasn't loved all the horses. They are waiting on us to get the horses strong and healthy. This horse is already in the US so no adjustment period like these guys. This horse is nice enough to show to all the people I have shown our current horses to. Limitless possiblities.

Heather


Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 09:29:10 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 4 year old pony
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

OK,
called the guy, he's more into stocks & RE, but he'll call me back next week to come and look at the horses

best I can do for now.

Marc


Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:57:45 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 4 year old pony
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Sounds great.

Keep it up!! The ball is starting to roll; once it does it will just keep going.

Heather


Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 10:08:26 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 4 year old pony
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey:

Just spoke to someone that sounded very interested, from NY. going ot the web site. will call me back tonight

keep your fingers crossed


Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 05:00:27 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: check for Silco - Sept. bill
To:ebaytradenews@yahoo.com

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

The check was returned for $1901.44. I need to get this cleared up asap as I have already sent out money against this check. Please help me rectify this as quickly as possible. Thanks.

Heather


Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 07:44:26 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: check for Silco - Sept. bill
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

That stupid bank!
I'll fix it today..
sorry.


Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 08:58:05 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: check for Silco - Sept. bill
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey Heather:

just redeposit, it should be fine now...

don't ever deal with Bank of America, they're idiots and rip offs


Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 09:41:51 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: check for Silco - Sept. bill
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

As far as I can tell all banks suck! I would like to bury my money in the backyard. Thanks

Heather


Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:11:40 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: check for Silco - Sept. bill
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Yeah, me too. I'm going to set my own bank: Shoebox Savings

Talked to another guy last night whose aunt died and left him a lot of money... he's got to wait for the IRS to snatch their share .. but said he'd be able to do a joint venture with me on a $100k horse... he'll call me back next week


Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 07:36:01 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: check for Silco - Sept. bill
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey, hey Heather:

So what happened with Flemmingh?


Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 15:32:16 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: David
To:lelabelleh@yahoo.com

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Just curiosity...

what was the purpose of David's call... was he still skeptical?

or was he just concerned that his cousin said he could get horses much cheaper. ...

did he say anything negative abotu the overall investment


Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:07:17 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: David
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

He called to "level" with me and give me the opportunity to shed some light on his cousins point of view of the horse business.

His cousin said horses are expensive and more for fun than for business. His cousin does some breeding and is in a different aspect of the business. I am not sure that he even does hunters and jumpers so there may be a huge difference. I told him how I started out and what it cost versus what it cost now and why there is a difference. I don't think his cousin said he could buy cheaper horses - I think he has no idea about this market. I think his cousin has a barn where he teaches lessons and breeds some horses - which is very expensive. You have to feed the horses you breed until they are 4 years old before they are really saleable - that means you have spent close to 50K on them. Some of the horses may be worth that but more often than not they aren't worth that so you lose a lot of money.

I did talk to him today and faxed him some of the numbers for those specific horses and enlightened him on the clientele here. I explained the clientele is a huge part of why this business is so profitable which helped clarify things. He again left me with a very positive feeling so I will keep you posted.

Heather


Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 08:28:28 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: David
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

I guess he is interested and doing due diligence into the unknown...

I read him like a book. I'm guessing that he'll probably try to deal directly with you thiniking that he might get a better deal if he can cut me out...
(he hasn't contacted me since we went there).
let me know if this happens so I know what I'm dealing with.

I'm hoping that he's honorable, but you never know these days, people are always trying to eat your lunch...

when you get a chance send me a copy of what you faxed him...

thanks

Marc


Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 10:13:56 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: David
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

It is fine if he deals directly with me because the commission is still the same 15% as I already told him. I am NOT going to cut you out so no concern there. I have attached the paperwork I sent him.

Heather


Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 12:44:55 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: David
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

OK,

looked at the numbers on the various horses , they all seem the same..

off hand, from an investment point of view, they don't look great.

specially since they don't include the commission...

the 6 month scenarios, where there is a 50K profit (still have to take out the commission) that's not worth while to spend all that money on the horse and then carry it at about 4K a month for 6 months for about 25 - 30K net.
I wouldn't do it.

The only one that make a little sense are the 2 month scenario where the investor would clear about 30K, but even then, laying out nearly 100K for 30K is questionable. The good part however is that it's only 60 days.. that makes it more worth while.
anyway, it's just my opinion, (I'm sure investors want to make 50% or more on their investments... ) maybe I'm misreading it....

what we have to do maybe is get me educated in the purchase of the equipment and other areas, to see if I can't find you much better deals to minimize your expenses.

I like the concept very much, and I'm thinking of do it with high ticket cars just to see how that would work out...

The way I see it, is that if you can make it very secure (that's number one) and very profitable for investors, while you're picking up the commission and the day care/training of the horses, you could do very well if you can buy & sell 10 - 15 horses a month (maybe more) without using any of your money...

I think that in time we can get a system down path that investors will be begging us to take their monies and buy horses....

Oh well, again, I like the concept very much just got to get it down path.

later

Marc


The concern was that all the horses in the projections were priced at $85K instead of $75K. And all the expenses were nearly double what I was paying for my horses.... I though she was grossly padding the costs for her own gain

Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 15:50:50 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: David
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Ok now I am concerned.

These are the same numbers that apply to your/our horses. This is the same template I used for Flemming and Silco. I am being very choosey and finding horses that can fit this mold, as I think it will be the most successful. There is no investment where investors make this kind of money, but I think when you talk to people you have to give best and worst case scenarios. I don't want people freaking out if every horse does not get sold in 60 days. It takes 30 days just to get them truly "healthy".

My research has led me down paths where most investors are happy to get 18% return on their money. I have never talked to anyone that has expected 50% or more. If making 30 - 40K every 3 months or so is not good enough then this is probably not the right business for them. It is very profitable, but I think you are looking at this from an extreme point of view. I always try to show best case scenario to worst case scenario. I am not comfortable portraying it any other way. I don't want anyone to ever be shocked.

I want to make money like everyone else but there is a certain amount of work and effort involved - it does not happen over night and is not as simple as it may appear. We have a lot of "quality" horses and therefore everyone has loved them, but you have to understand how many horses got turned down before I got to these horses. It is a fabulous business but it does take time, effort, and expertise.

I didn't say anything in front of David the other day when you were here - I figured you were trying to "sell" the idea, but Silco is not on the market for 200K. I never have indicated that to you. I put him on the market for 125K the day he got here and he will go up to 150K the start of this next month. Very similar scenario for Flemming. This is why the horses are getting sold so quickly. The horses can be priced at whatever we want but I thought the idea was to turn them quickly - if you slap a huge tag on it people typically want to see them show and have a record - these are added expenses that we are trying not to incur. The only horse I said would go on the market for 200K right away was Travis. That horse was significantly more expensive to start because of his talent level. He is very inexperienced but has ALL the talent in the world. He has the potential to be 500K+ horse (next couple of years). Flemming and Silco (and most other horses) are maxed out before they get to a number like that.

These are very valuable horses but you have to make sure you understand some of these things before you talk to other people about it. I do not want to mislead anyone in any way. No business or investment is simple if you are truly going to make money. I looked at over 600 horses before I found a handful that fit the criteria for me. Yes the business can continue to grow and I can seek out the quality like I have now but it is not as clear, cut, and dry as maybe you would like it to be. There is no guarantee of 60 day turnover. Yes that is always ideal but not a given. If I could find and buy 10 horses just like Flemming - I could sell them all right now just like him. It isn't quite that simple. The key ingredient is quality. The quality horses sell themselves - that is what makes it easy.

Hope this helps clear things up a bit. Please call or email any questions.

Heather


Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 09:29:55 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: David
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Oh, dont be concerned

I'll explain later on this afternoon...

thanks

Marc


Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 12:55:45 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: David
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

OK

I re-made your template, showing the commission costs so you can see the ned profit to the investor.

I noticed that all the horses on those templates are $85K to buy.

I understood that small town was 85K to buy, but did all the others suddenly jump to 85k.

I noticed also tha the first bill $8,100 with subsequent bills at close to $7,000

I also see that the stalls double in price (because of season I guess, but that won't appeal to anyone)

These expenses are eating you up!

What I'm saying is that those projections won't be appealing to investors.
And no, no one is happpy with 18%. Investors want to get as much as possible out of their investments. It's acceptable in some very safe and liquid investment, but for the most part I think they want more money for tying up their capital for 90+ days.

I think that $75K for a horse, and minimizing the expenses to where the total cost is $85-90K and selling for $150, or so with a net profit to the invsetor of around 40K - 45K would be good.

anyway, just my point of view, I'm sure you've had other investors with different point of views...

If we can sell Flemmingh this week, I'll be good with that investment and if Silco goes at the end of the month, that will also be a good investment, altough I was under the impression that he would go for more....

Maybe there is a different approach....

Marc


Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 06:21:49 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Hey, hey
To:lelabelleh@yahoo.com

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey Heather:

I'm going to my bank today to apply for a line of credit..

I need to show them some projections on our horses

Will there be another bill for Flemingh, if so what will it be?

Will there be another bill for Silco, if so what will it be?

When are we expecting payment on Flemmingh? Best case/worse case

When are we expecting payment on Silco?

Could you scan & send me your signed copy of our agreement
that I sent you in the mail.

thanks

Marc


Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:39:46 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hey, hey
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

I would estimate the bills to be similar to last month - maybe less. I will get those done tonight and go ahead and send that to you.

Please don't get too excited about this or put a whole lot of weight in this - I have a professional coming to see all the horses in the barn today and he will be looking at Flemming for 200K. Again don't have any expectations for that but he is nicer than most everything else they are looking at so cross your fingers for sure.

Best case Scenario for Flemming is he gets looked at on Tuesday afternoon form the vet and everything is perfect and we proceed from there - plan on 7 business days for payment. Worst case scenario we wrap up the paperwork on him at the same time as Silco. The first week in November we have 3 vet appointments scheduled. We have to wait for November because the finals are up north (DC, PA, and MD) during the month of October. However the vet appointments are already scheduled so that is taken care of. If Flemming is still with us at that point he will be more money!! Sometimes worth being slightly patient.

Silco has arrangements made for that first week in November also. The professional that came through last week and rode him has 4 girls looking but not sure which one he will put on him. He has already scheduled the vet appointment which is like scheduling a closing on a house. It is a done deal after the inspection is passed.

I have no idea what may transpire in October but am anticipating it to be a slow time as most professionals are up north for those couple of weeks.

I want to stress to you the seriousness put forth when someone schedules a vet appointment - it is highly unusual for the deal to not get done at that point.

Heather


Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 08:51:52 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: hey, hey...
To:lelabelleh@yahoo.com

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey Heather:

I wonder if you could just reply to the message? It can be short, dont' need a lot of details... also, really need the signed agreement to show the bank that I do in fact own half of a second horse

I'm trying to preserve my cell minutes for when somebody calls on the ad, I only have 600 minutes a month and last month I had to pay over $80.00 of "We got you" minutes at $0.40@ minute

Talking to potential investors really eats up minutes...

thanks

Marc


Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 16:43:31 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hey, hey
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

I would estimate the bills to be similar to last month - maybe less. I will get those done tonight and go ahead and send that to you.

Please don't get too excited about this or put a whole lot of weight in this - I have a professional coming to see all the horses in the barn today and he will be looking at Flemming for 200K. Again don't have any expectations for that but he is nicer than most everything else they are looking at so cross your fingers for sure.

I always expect the worst, I get pleasantly surprised at times.

Best case Scenario for Flemming is he gets looked at on Tuesday afternoon formt he vet and everything is perfect and we proceed from there - plan on 7 business days for payment. Worst case scenario we wrap up the paperwork on him at the same time as Silco. The first week in November we have 3 vet appointments scheduled. We have to wait for November because the finals are up north (DC, PA, and MD) during the month of October. However the vet appointments are already scheduled so that is taken care of. If Flemming is still with us at that point he will be more money!! Sometimes worth being slightly patient.

I understood that Flemmingh was sold, just needed vet approval after healing the sore foot...
Is there any reasons he should have to stay with us another month?

I can be patient, but I understood him to be sold.

In the first week of November, you have 3 vet appointments, for which horses?

Silco has arrangements made for that first week in November also. The professional that came through last week and rode him has 4 girls looking but not sure which one he will put on him. He has already scheduled the vet appointment which is like scheduling a closing on a house. It is a done deal after the inspection is passed.

What date is this appointment scheduled for?
and, are we still looking at $150k or $200K

I have no idea what may transpire in October but am anticipating it to be a slow time as most professionals are up north for those couple of weeks.

I want to stress to you the seriousness put forth when someone schedules a vet appointment - it is highly unusual for the deal to not get done at that point.

I believe you, that why I'm wondering why I wuold still have Flemmingh in the First week of November

OK, I just need the costs to finish my projections, going to the bank in the morning

Thanks
Marc

Heather


Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 06:34:38 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hey, hey
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

hey, hey

don't forget the bills for Oct

thanks


Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 08:13:37 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hey, hey
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

sorry I didn't get these to you last night.

attached, October bills for Flemmingh& Silco


Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 08:25:32 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hey, hey
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

wanted to let you know about other things going on in case you talk to anyone.

I had a request for several new horses for a client. she wants to "win" this winter down here and is prepared to pay for it. She is expecting to spend 400K per horse. She wants horses that have been here and have a show record. I have attached a few more sheets - these are obviously low ball numbers compared to the 400.

In addition I have attached a running client list of what horses I would show to the people coming the first week in November if we can get the horses here. Just desperately trying to get this all in play - people are fascinated with the quality of all our horses and are excited about what else may come.

Heather


Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 10:29:41 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hey, hey
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey:

Well, I haven't talked to anyone lately. I have not re-run my ad because I'm spreading myslef too thin with all the expenses of, and waiting for these horses to go. (I'm like in limbo)

As soon as Flemminghs goes, I'll be able to function again and I can get you people to look at these horses.

You didn't address any of the questions in my last message, (the one below)

lmk

Marc


Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 11:34:14 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hey, hey
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

didn't realize there were questions emersed in my email. sorry

Flemming - all depends on the foot. Most of these guys leave this next week to go to the first "final" horse show. It is in Maryland. They will be there for the month of October so if we don't squeek by then November it is. They are being patient and have not lost any interest - I am like you though. Prepare for the worst and get pleasantly surprised with the best. Hopefully on Tuesday we are perfect!!

Flemming and Silco were both priced at 150K. The only horse I indicated a price of 200K for was Travis. Flemming I would get a commission on top of that so - actual wire would be 165K.

The vet appointments for November are for Silco, Travis, and Pebbles. I think Bernie is getting vetted in 10 days. Waiting for conformation from the trainer. I am suppose to touch base with the trainer the last week in October to confirm the day of return for the November appointments. I will keep you posted. It will be that first week in November.

Heather


Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 12:11:23 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hey, hey
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey, don't mean to be a pain in the ass, but I think I grossly misunderstood the commission structure.. can you explain it to me

" Flemming I would get a commission on top of that so - actual wire would be 165K."

the buyer is paying you the commission?


Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 12:53:43 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hey, hey
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

depends on the deal and how the horse is priced

depends on the clients budget . . .

That is sometimes where we get some negotiating room as well. I always try to get the commission on top of what the sale price is. Doesn't always work that way; sometimes they want to split the difference; sometimes they want the other side to pay the whole commission. This is why we are being patient with his foot because we don't want any imperfections - leaves room for negotiations.

It is like not getting past an inspection on a house - it cost you money.


Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 10:22:49 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hey, hey
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

OK,
that makes a lot of difference int he investor revenue....
that's why I didn't see any commission fees incorporated in your projections...

anyway, well getting a loan is going to be harder thant I thought.
I could get up to 100K unsecure line of credit easily enough, but I'm shooting for 200K
which I have to qualify for... more difficult...
so do what ever you can for Flemmingh to go today, if you want me to work on getting more investors....
( I need money to continue running print ads and internert ads)

let me know how it went

thanks

Marc


Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 12:18:32 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hey, hey
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

we got put off til tomorrow morning - 8:30 appointment. I will let you know immediately how it goes.

Heather


Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 13:00:24 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hey, hey
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Well, that sounds better than "Bad News"
Should I come over and rub his feet all night long? :-)


Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 06:32:51 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hey, hey
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Wanted to let you know - Bokeloh got diverted from Miami so he is just now leaving New York and on his way South. Not sure if you have talked with anyone but we can still get in there and get him before someone else does. I know with October 1 here - some people should be ready to invest as there dividend checks arrive - I think they have 72 hours to do something with it before they pay capital gain taxes. He could easily be added to the list of horses to get vetted in November. Just food for thought-

Heather


Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 10:23:24 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hey, hey
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Well, I had a guy call me a few days ago, (he had called me before, but my cell battery went dead and I lost him. He blocks his calls)...

So he called me back and explained to me that his ant had died and left him about 400K, but that he had to wait for the IRS to release the funds...

In the meantime I told him that he could probably split a horse with someone else, he's interested and said he would see about borrowing against his stocks and call me back this week... So, I'll try ot get him up to you this week sometimes so he can see the farm and maybe I can put him & Dave together on their first horse... Or I would split with him if flemmingh sells...

keep your fingers crossed

Marc


Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 11:32:11 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hey, hey
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

sounds good - just trying to keep you in the loop!

Heather


Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 15:24:39 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: October bill
To:ebaytradenews@yahoo.com

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Hi - hope things are good down in Hollywood. I just dropped Flemming off at the vet clinic for his scan tomorrow. We are going to apply this to his insurance. Good news - we get full coverage for this. Bad news - I have to pay for this when I pick him up on Tuesday. With that said I really do need your October payment right away. They didn't spring this on me until I dropped him off. I know you are really good about getting your payment to me around the first, but this time I probably won't have the extra couple of days - sorry for the short notice. If I had been aware of this when we spoke last week I would obviously have made you aware of it then. I will need the cash flow to make it all work until the insurance check comes to cover the expense. Not sure what the quickest way to get that in the bank - is there a Wachovia near you? If so maybe just cash a check, wire, something - I don't care as long as it gets in there.

Name on Account - Griffon Gate Farm LLC

Account # -

ABA # - 2

Address on Acct - 31833 Wellington Trace E-4 #446 Wellington, Fl 33414

I will cover the expense of this out of the October expenses and put the vet bill on your final bill - you should have received the insurance check by then - it will come to you as you are the policy holder. I will stay in touch with you about this and make sure you get that - they say usually within 30 days - so no big deal.

Good news - the customer that is vetting him stopped by to feed Flemming carrots before they headed out of town! That is a great thing!

We desperately need to find someone to buy the one that just flew in - it could get vetted the first week in November also. All we have to do is feed it and make it look pretty between now and then. Let me know. Talk to you soon.

Heather


Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 08:40:34 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: line of credit
To:ebaytradenews@yahoo.com

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

What is the criteria for a line of credit. This was something I had discussed with crazy Eryk about doing together. I am going nuts here - these people just call daily to check in and find out what new horses have arrived and make sure they can come to try them the first week in November. I have orders for 15 horses right now!! I had someone help pull together some numbers - (a little different than our arrangement) - this was for a line of credit to cover those numbers. See what you think.

How did you make out with getting that money moved around?

Heather


Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 13:56:42 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: ???
To:ebaytradenews@yahoo.com

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Haven't gotten a response to the last couple of emails. Wanted to make sure you were getting them. Hope everything is ok.

Heathe


Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 17:43:00 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ???
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey:

Sorry, been busy all day, just now looked at emails.

How much is the vet bill for flemmingh. maybe I can pay it with a credit card over the phone to them.

Haven't heard from anyone yet... I'd love to do Jedi, but until something sells I can't put my ass on the Hook for $100K. I know it sound lke a recording already, BUT... You sell Flemmingh, I'll buy Jedi with borrowed money and keep the capital to cover the loan...

You think I could deposit a check in your account? bank wires cost me $25.00 each.... I have your checks ready to drop in the mail, (just got to get a stamp.)

Thanks

Marc


Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 19:15:58 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ???
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

The vet bill is going to be large. We had to sedate him several times - the machine we used on him is basically like an mri machine so it is quite costly. Again - all of this is covered by the insurance but as a reimbursement. I am guessing the bill is going to be ~ 3000.00. Paying for it with a credit card over the phone is just fine - we do that all the time. I will have to call you from there. I am taking a saddle over there to ride him for the vet to make sure we got everything before we leave. So I am guessing sometime after lunch - I can call you for your card number. If that timing doesn't work for you just email it to me - I will put through the shredder as soon as it is used.

That would be perfect if you can just deposit those checks - if that isn't an inconvenience for you. They will want to hold those for a week which gets a little annoying ( I think they are making money on it for that time).

I totally understand - trying to figure out how to do more myself. I am willing to put my ass on the hook but not sure how really. We will keep plugging away. All the horses have vet appointments set up now - even the little chestnut one that is a little inexpensive. I know once the ball starts rolling it will just continue - it is just getting there. Thank for all the support and patience. Horses are all doing fabulous. FYI - I named Flemming "Fabulous" for his show name - kind of like a stage name. Thought is was cute and fit him well.

Also - don't want you to feel like I am hassling you about the bill - just don't have the kind of cashflow to cover misc. expenses of 2500+. I do appreciate your prompt attention to your bill. Will talk to you tomorrow after we finish riding him at the clinic tomorrow.

Heather


Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 19:37:11 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ???
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey;

Wow, I don't know that I can handle the bills you sent plus another $3,000.

this is stressing me out... I hadn'd planned on all these expenses, we have to figure something out....

I'll talk to you in the morning

Marc


Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 19:55:19 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ???
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

That is why we are applying this to our insurance. I am not sure how the bills are unexpected as they are lower than those on the spreadsheet that we outlined at the start of this project. All I really need you to do is cash out those checks you wrote to me and deposit the cash (if you don't want to send a wire) so it is available right away. I will float the 3000 until the insurance check comes; but I can't do that without the October bill being paid. The bank will hold those checks because of the bounced check last month. I can't cover this without the bill money being available. I didn't suggest you to put this on a credit card as I knew the expense was going to be high - again that is what we have insurance for. It is just like any other type of insurance - you get reimbursed.

I am beginning to feel stressed as well - I think you should go back and review the spreadsheets I sent you at the start of all this. It concerns me that you feel the expenses are "unexpected". The spreadsheet really spells it out for you; it of course does not cover things like this vet bill but the insurance does so I am not sure where the misunderstanding is coming in. I don't want you to always feel stressed and bombarded - that is not good for you. I thought we had been over this at length before the purchase of the horses.

No promises, but I can try to find someone to buy you out of Silco for what you have in him if that is necessary. Just let me know and I will see what I can do. I don't want you to always feel under the gun. Again - please review the spreadsheets from the beginning -

Talk to you soon.

Heather


Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 05:58:15 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ???
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey,

NO, you misundesrtood.

First, I expected Flemmingh to be sold a few weeks ago, Now, we're into the third month and if it stretches into the first week of November, we'll be into the fourth month.

I also understood that he big wigs were really interested in Silco and that he should be gone by the end of the month just past, now that's going into November as well.

I shouldn't of done Silco, I was under the impression that you had a buyer ready to snatch him up. I expected it to be a month, or month and a half at the most.

I didn't expect the expense of 3,000 vet bills. That's what I didn't expect.
I expected Flemminghs expenses, but he dragging out longer that I expected.

Well, getting out of Silco woud be a releif, but having gone this far just to get my investment back doesn't sound like a good deal. If you can get Flemmingh squared away, and sold this month (unless you have a buyer for more money, FOR SURE in November) then SIlco can go until December or so.... he's not the bulk of my investment.

I will see about depositing cash in your accout today, if I can't, I'll bring you cash in the morning.

thanks

Marc


Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 11:17:47 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ???
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

OK,

I just deposited $5754.32 in your account.

How's Flemmingh? Is there anything else that could delay his sale?
When is his next Vet appt?

thanks


Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 17:58:27 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ???
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Flemming is much better. I was at the vet clinic with him from 2 to 6 tonight. I rode him in front of several different vets . . . he is much better. I did not pick him up this afternoon - one final lookover in the morning. I will let you know after that.

Heather


Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 08:57:53 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ???
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey:

Just wondering how we're progressing with Flemmingh
Is there anything else that could delay his sale?
When is his next buyer's Vet appt?

thanks


Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 11:23:06 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ???
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

We are still not to the bottem of the problem. Flemming is still at the clinic. I will pick him up this afternoon. The scan did not light up his foot. It lit up his back so we have been evaluating that all week. He is getting a shockwave treatment and I just bought him a new saddle ($3500 - no expense to you though) - (something that will be useful to me with future horses). Yes this is delaying his sale. I will let you know more when I pick him up this afternoon. ALL of this will be covered with the insurance. I already spoke with someone yesterday about starting a claim. Any paperwork you receive please just forward to me to fill out. I will check back with you this evening.

Thanks -
Heather


Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 09:02:20 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ???
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Geez, just my luck!

How did the foot problem come about? or did he have it when we bought him.
We paid the vet 1200 some dollars and we ended up with a horse with a bad back and a bum foot!!! Will he be sellable or should I just bail out?

I'm telling you, I have no luck at all (except bad luck) !


Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 14:18:38 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ???
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Ok - this is just part of the education.

The foot problem happened with us - he lnpcked off his shoe on the right front leg and stood on the nails. He was slightly sore from that so we just continued to try to toughen him up. The foot is really not a big deal but he has be slightly unconfortable right front. Well it turns out the diagnosis was not right front - he has clearly been over that - the real problem is his back is sore. This also is not a crisis and in no way devalues the horse. It does require some slight patience but he will be just fine. Your luck is not all bad - I promise!!! These are truly just bumps in the road. I promised you I would tell you if there was a time to panic - we are fine!! No panic necessary.

The vet didn't miss anything; these are things we could have seen if my crystal ball was more clear (haha). The back thing was more progressive and is totally fixable with a saddle the horse is more comfortable with and some basic treatment. Again - we will apply the entire diagnosis process and treatment to his insurance. The shockwave treatment is great because it causes the nerve endings to deaden causing the pain to go away until it heals. The biggest cure is making sure the saddle fits the best possible. Saddle fit is like shoe fit - we all have our preferences - not a huge deal - completely coincidental that is appeared to be right front; otherwise we would have addressed it sooner and not assumed it was from ripping his shoe off.

You absolutely do not need to bail - your patience will pay off. I will probably try to start riding him tomorrow or Sunday. This is more of a management problem than an issue for the horse. I will keep you posted. Please let me know when you receive any insurance paperwork. The sooner the better - the faster we get a check.

Your luck is not all bad - you have two extremely nice horses.

Heather


Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 15:13:14 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ???
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

OK....

I trust you!

I'll forward (or may bring them by) the form as soon as I get them

thanks

Marc


Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 16:49:26 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ???
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

sounds good - at least if you come by - you can see for yourself it isn't that bad. Talk to you soon

Heather


Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 06:21:45 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ???
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey:

Any good news? Didn't get the forms yet...

thanks


Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 07:10:19 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ???
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

No news really. The customers have not lost interest; they are keeping up with our status and seem unphased by our bumps in the road.

Heather


Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 08:27:35 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ???
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey:

That doesn't tell me much.

is he still at the vet? I his back OK...
I'm assuming that the foot is not an issue anymore....

Do we have another vet appointment scheduled?


Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 09:34:48 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ???
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

My message to you last week I said I was going to pick him up - sorry thought you knew that. I picked him up on Thursday afternoon. The foot is not an issue at all. We are about 95% there with the back. We look at him next week. Not sure what day yet but will let you know.

Heather


Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 12:55:33 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ???
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Great!

I just need you to do your best to get him done this month as November Daycare will be a problem. I can handle Silco (a bit longer if we sell Flemmingh) But, I can't handle both for another month....

What are we looking at for daycare on SIlco for November? I'm assuming that he'll be gone somewhere in the first or second week of November, right?

Don't mean to bust your chops, but all my plans are "On hold" until these guys go, so I need to know when I'll be able to pick up where I left off.

thanks

Marc


Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 15:50:51 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Candino
To:ebaytradenews@yahoo.com

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Please don't think I have lost my mind!!! I showed the video of Candino (grey horse in Europe) to the people that are going to buy Flemming and they want him too. They will not give me the video back so that I can't show it to anyone else!! I will use one of my horses as collateral with you if you can pull together a line of credit. I know it is a stretch but I know these people and how this game goes - we can sell them horses left and right for a lot of money but we have to be able to provide the horses. This is as close to a sure thing as deals get. November is our big payday!!! This would allow you to do all those other deals you want to do. I will stick my neck out here with you if that makes you feel better! Let me know - I know it is a stretch but let me know.

Heather


Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 05:49:58 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Candino
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Well,

I've been telling the bank that my horse would sell in a week or so, 3 weeks ago.... Had that happened I would have no problem walking in there and asking for money... but as it stands I feel like an idiot. How can I show them that I'll be able to pay them back? My accounts are practically depleted.

I can't play that game. Not without some sort of deposit to show commitment.... Tell them you need a $50k deposit on the horses, then we can talk turkey. BUT, again, if you can get paid for FLemingh, then I can swing for it under some conditions...

I'm still waiting for answers to my last message so I can figure out where I'll get daycare money for next month that won't cost me an arm & a leg....

I'l be without a computer for the next two days, After 10:am as we are getting out house tented...

maybe I'll come by tomorrow

Marc


Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 07:16:51 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ???
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Flemming has just started back to work. He is trotting for about 10 minutes everyday. He still has another treatment next week. He will not be able to canter and jump until after that. I would not plan on him being gone until the horses get vetted in November. Unfortunately I can't wave a magic wand - he is an athelete and we can't rush these things.

The bills on a month to month basis are basically the same. I can do up a bill for you tonight.

Heather


Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 07:29:32 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ???
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey:

That's not what I wanted to hear....

are we sure that they are going to be sold in November or are we speculating?

and can you pro rate the bills for the first 2 weeks instead of a full month?


Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 07:34:09 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ???
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Not speculating but my crystal ball isn't working. I am doing absolutely everything possible for ALL the horses to get sold!!

Yes I will do a bill for the first two weeks.


Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:21:24 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ???
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey:

got the forms, will drop them off tomorrow inthe afternoon

thanks


Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:52:07 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ???
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Let me know a time - I may have a meeting in Boca tomorrow afternoon. Still trying to firm up a time.

Heather


Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 03:22:08 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ???
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Between 2:00 & 3:00.....

maybe a bit earlier


Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:03:50 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ???
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey:

How's everything going?

Have you figured out where you're going yet...

I was looking at the vet bill, WOW, they did a lot....
Have you paid them yet?

and will the insurance check be sent to you or to me?

My brother in law is coming to the boat show (from NJ) next thursday...
I may drag him up there to look at horses...

if he bought a horse, do you anticipate it would take to sell it..

lmk

Marc


Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:17:14 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ???
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

His first day back to work was yesterday. I will let you know this weekend how we are doing. We have to be able to jump a little before we can get the vet over. I will keep you posted though.

Heather


Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:03:55 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ???
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey hey...

what's up?

How's Flemmingh doing? do we have a vet appointment for him?
when?

let me know

thanks

Marc


Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 09:03:32 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ???
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey:

Just wondering what time you usually run him, I could come by tomorrow and watch you ride him...

let me know

thanks


Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 09:08:25 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ???
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Why don't we plan 10:00. We don't "run" him though. He will go out and trot around for about 10 - 15 minutes. We are building him back up. Let me know if you will make that.

Heather


Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 09:42:59 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ???
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

I hate to miss the Gym two Fridays in a row, so I can make it on Saturday at 10:00 or the coming Monday at 10:00.... I don't know if he trots on weekends...

thanks

Marc


Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 10:04:22 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ???
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Thats fine. Monday is probably the best. He does trot on the weekends but I have two trials lined up for the inexpensive horse in the barn so don't want to commit to a time. You never know how long the trials are going to last. You can have my undivided attention on Monday morning.

Thanks
Heather


Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:59:35 -0700 (PDT)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ???
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

OK, Monday it is...

I'll just wacth it trot, then I'll go.... Don't want to hold you up....

thanks


Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 09:34:45 -0700 (PDT)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ???
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

You can have as much time as you want. You don't have to rush or anything - just letting you know the weekend is going to be unpredictable as I will be at customers beck and call.

Heather


Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 16:14:56 -0800 (PST)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: November (1/2) bill
To:ebaytradenews@yahoo.com

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Are we still on for tomorrow? If so, there is no rush to be here at 10:00. I should be here most of the day. The people that came this weekend to try Bernie are going to come by tomorrow morning one more time. Didn't want you rushing to get here. See you tomorrow.

Heather


Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 07:35:10 -0800 (PST)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: November (1/2) bill
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey, sending you a check today...

How are we doing with Flemmingh... ?

here are the account numbers to use:

for Silco:
ABA:
Acc:

for Flemmingh
ABA:
acc:

let me know (call me)
if there is a transfer to be expected

Thanks

Marc


Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 07:02:37 -0800 (PST)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: bank info
To:lelabelleh@yahoo.com

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

hey, didnt get a response to my last message...
just making you got my bank info

thanks

Marc


Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 07:30:51 -0800 (PST)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Checking in!
To:lelabelleh@yahoo.com

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey:

How's evertyting going?

anyone getting vetted ?

lmk

thanks


Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 09:05:09 -0800 (PST)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Checking in!
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

You will be my first phone call as soon as that happens!

Flemming is going to jump a few small jumps tomorrow - I will let you know how it goes. He has been very solid - just want to keep it that way.

Heather


Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 05:46:45 -0800 (PST)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Checking in!
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey,

I'm conerned about FLemmingh because the first week of November has come and gone, his time runs out next week... will he be gone by then?

and I understood that you had a vet appointment scheduled for SIlco in the first week of November... When is this appointment scheduled for? It's still on isn't it?

Don't mean to be a pain in the ass but I have a considerable investment in you and I'm going to stay on top of it....

Let me know what your plans are to finalize these projects.

thanks

Marc


Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 07:55:06 -0800 (PST)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Checking in!
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

You are not being a pain in the ass - its fine - i would expect you to stay on it.

I am waiting to hear from the customers. People are moving horses, equipment, lives . .. rushing them will get us nowhere. It is just as hard for me as it is you to be patient, but that is just how it is. There is no point in rushing flemming either - we will be right back where we started - it is a step by step process. We can't skip steps - he is doing so well.

Talk to you later
Heather


Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 06:37:17 -0800 (PST)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Checking in!
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey:

May come by with a friend to visit the horses tomorrow....
Probably late morning, early afternoon

see you then

marc


Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 06:47:25 -0800 (PST)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Checking in!
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Glad you can make it up again. Let's make it late morning - I have customers coming at 1:00 so I will be pretty tied up then. But free up until then. Look forward to seeing you.

Heather


Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 07:25:02 -0800 (PST)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Checking in!
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

OK, I'm going to come by to visit tomorrow around 12:00...

let me know if that's a problem

Marc


Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 08:02:14 -0800 (PST)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Checking in!
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

needs to be a little later than that - will be running shoshana to the airport at noon. Doesn't take very long but 1:00 - 1:30 is a safer plan.

I think Silco is getting vetted on Saturday.

Heather


Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 06:48:13 -0800 (PST)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Checking in!
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey...

hope all is well.....

let me know how things work out with Silco today...

thanks

Marc


Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:16:34 -0800 (PST)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Checking in!
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

no news today. I will call them in the morning

Heather


Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 08:54:31 -0800 (PST)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Checking in!
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey, I was just going to call you... still might

I'm guessing that the vet cleared Silco.... and that we're just waiting for a bank wire...... do they have the horse or do we still have it?

marc


Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 19:00:53 -0800 (PST)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Checking in!
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey:

what we discussed today is freaking me out big time... I just don't see an end to this project, but it HAS TO END. I can't handle the sleepless nights worring about when I'm getting my investment back.

and the thougt of getting another horse and starting all over is not coming through to me at all...

if you have a plan "B", definitely put it into action, I can't wait much longer until I start looking into measures to get my money back. This is not a threat, but take it seriously as I have to get out of these horses.

Also, I think that if your broker sold you a bum horse, he should be responsible for all the expense incured in addition to the purchase price. I just can understand that this ailment just developped while we had him. Scarred tissues don't happen that fast

as for flemmingh, if he can't sell in the next week, BAIL me out of him.. I can't continue to hang on....

I may want to see him jump tomorrow, let me know what time you plan to jump him. BUT I DON'T want to drive there and not see him jump.

I'd also like to know the name of the vet (& his phone number) that did the initial vetting for Flemmingh & SIlco...

Hate to get tough but got a lot of money at stake, going to do what ever it takes to get it back.

Marc


Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 05:30:48 -0800 (PST)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Checking in!
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

hey:

Still waiting for a reply... Didn't sleep last night, I'm totally freaked out with this but I'm keeping my cool. I DO want a solution though.

I think I have an idea (2 actually) that will work for both of us, not so great for me, but I'll live with it... let's talk.

when should I come by...


Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 08:42:29 -0800 (PST)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Flemming and Silco
To:ebaytradenews@yahoo.com

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

What is your plan?

Heather


Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 04:02:42 -0800 (PST)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Flemming and Silco
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Been meaning to ask, did you ever submit that insurance claim for flemmingh?


Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 06:10:54 -0800 (PST)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Flemming and Silco
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Yes, I followed up with them Thanksgiving week and they had just gotten the final report from the vet so you should be seeing something shortly.

Thanks
Heather


Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 04:11:41 -0800 (PST)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Flemming and Silco
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey,

I was thinking about your mention that you could possibly get another horse to sell and possibly get to keep Silco as well instead of exchanging... I guess that means we would split profit on two horses instead of one.... That would seem fair to make up for all the time & money invested in Silco.

Let me know if you can swing that, I may risk a loan to keep going a while longer

lmk


Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 06:12:13 -0800 (PST)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Flemming and Silco
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

What I am waiting on is a video of several horses to see if there is anything interesting. I will keep you posted.

Heather


Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 08:21:56 -0800 (PST)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Flemming and Silco
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Got this yeaterday.... see attached

has this been taken care of?

Attached was an Insurance cancellation notice for non payment


Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 09:20:26 -0800 (PST)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Flemming and Silco
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

i payed that quite some time ago - i will check on it.

Heather


Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 09:31:52 -0800 (PST)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Flemming and Silco
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

OK, they seem to have no record of it...


Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 09:33:44 -0800 (PST)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Flemming and Silco
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

i was just speaking with betty at the office and gave her my confirmation numbers on all the payments so she is looking into it. It will not be cancelled! They may have made a mistake and credited it to the wrong account. she and i are suppose to talk again this afternoon.

Heather


Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 06:17:20 -0800 (PST)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Flemming and Silco
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey, hey:

just wondering what progress you are making with Siclo and FLemmingh

Have you considered buying me out of Silco or do we have anyone else interested in him?

Were you able to get his medical redords?
Is the broker going to give you a replacement?

What about buying me out of both horses at $175.?
Have you given that consideration?
Given that you sell them at the minimum price, you stand to make an extra $50K. Does that sound interesting to you?

I need to know where we are at. I need good news for a change.

I'm being pressured by the people who I bought my digital press from.
They want me to get it out of their warehouse by Next Monday.

I have to come up with cash to cover moving expense -a few thousand bucks-
and storage for it until I can get a warehouse to set it up.

Please give me a detailed response.

Marc


Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 07:11:44 -0800 (PST)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Flemming and Silco
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

I am trying to buy you out of both horses. I went to the bank this week and have another meeting on Monday. Hopefully they will have some info.

Nothing on the medical records yet -

Heather


Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 07:31:39 -0800 (PST)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Flemming and Silco
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Great!

If you need, I can carry a good part of the note up to $125k provided that you can pretty much pay it off within 90 days or so, as you sell the horses.

Do let me know how you make out on Monday, if you work with Bank of America I can probably help secure the loan.


Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 08:47:03 -0800 (PST)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Flemming and Silco
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey,

just wondering how you made out at the bank?


Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:12:27 -0800 (PST)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Flemming and Silco
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

So, what happened at the bank today?


Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:31:12 -0800 (PST)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Flemming and Silco
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

I didn't miss the first email you sent me regarding this - again, I am not around the computer all day.

No news from the bank, the manager was not in today. I will go back tomorrow. I WILL let you know AS SOON as I know something.

Heather


Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 06:23:05 -0800 (PST)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Flemming and Silco
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

The reason im say is that I could offer to put the money (or a good part of it) that they lend you in a CD in that bank, to secure your loan if necessary


Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:56:24 -0800 (PST)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Flemming and Silco
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Hi, "Dood"- (that is his actual name!) seemed optimistic we could get something done. I filled out several forms, so hopefully one will work. He said it would be a couple of days. I will let him know tomorrow about the CD.

Thanks
Heather


Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 18:01:46 -0800 (PST)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Flemming and Silco
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

OK, here's what I suggest. if you can give me 40 - 50K and borrow the balance, I could place that entire balance into a short term CD, (6 months or so) to secure your loan. The only thing is you pay off the loan as you sell the horses... It must be paid at the maturity of the CD.

The will build your credit with the bank, even if you pay it off before the 6 months, you'll show them that you are makig money and can pay the loans off....

After that they'll be throwing money at you all the time....


Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 13:52:09 -0800 (PST)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fwd: Xeikon and Cutter
To:lelabelleh@yahoo.com

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hey:

OK, I can't handle this anymore... I'm loosing my shirt because of you.
So if you have any promising news to tell me, now ( and I mean now) is a good time to do so.

I don't know what your plans are, but you better come up with something ie:

You have X amount of money to give me, and I'll hold a note for the balance, or you can get a loan for the balance... whatever! I want answers, detailed answers not ambigous stalls...

I have an attorney ready to draw a formal agreement to settle this once and for all.

If we can't come to a compromise, I'll have to take steps to liquidate these horses at once.

Please, don't ignore this message. Tell me how & when we are going to settle this.

Sorry it has to come to this.

Marc


Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 16:24:03 -0800 (PST)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Xeikon and Cutter
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Until I hear from the bank - I can't do anything. I told you a couple of days. It takes time to process paperwork. I can't go to the bank and wave a magic wand! The horses can't leave to go anywhere right now - there are no horses traveling in Wellington. There has been an outbreak of a virus and they are trying to contain it. Pick up a paper and read it. Our horses have not been effected, but no one is moving horses - it is not safe. I will let you know when I get an answer from the bank. Nothing is instant gratification.

Heather


Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 16:25:41 -0800 (PST)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Xeikon and Cutter
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

what is this about - Xiekon and Cutter????

Heather


Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 19:15:52 -0800 (PST)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Xeikon and Cutter
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

It's printing equipment that I purchased prior to the horses that has to be moved from the seller's warehouse to a new warehouse (that I can't afford to get into right now) or he will discard it...


Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 19:52:54 -0800 (PST)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Xeikon and Cutter
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Hello!

I've been waiting for a long time, there's nothing instant here, that's for sure. and when something does happens it will be pretty much a loss, so nothing gratification either....

But, you're still not telling me anything. OK so let's say you get a NO from the bank, then what? Got any plans? You're not telling me that you have the means to at least buy me out of Silco. Why can't you sell him? So, you had one buyer that you never sold to before and he bailed out on you. Don't you have other prospects ready to buy him. I undesrtood that he was such a great horse. I can't see a little scarred tissue kill all his potential for real buyers. Supposedly, there is absolutely nothing wrong with him and he can jump. Why can't he sell?

You're not telling me about a replacement horse that you mentioned.... You're not telling me anything promising, I don't want to hear abvout magic wands or crystal balls, you didn't mention any of that when you wanted to buy the horses... So get real and level with me. It seems you have not had anything go right since we bought these horses.

I do remember clearly you tellling me however that nothing ever happens to the horses, when we talked about a horse dying or breaking a leg and what if. Yet, one has been incapacitated for 2 months or so and the other has scarred tissue and no buyers...

I'm not hearing how you've been calling every prospect in the world to move Silco. I'm not hearing that Flemmingh is doing great and that people are still standing in line to buy him....

You say you'll keep me posted, But I find myself having to ask for updates all the time... you keep me in the dark, and that doesn't work for me...

Considering that I totally trusted you and gave you most of my savings I think I deserve a lot more consideration as to how we're going to bail out of this situation. I don't think that a plan of action (that makes sense) is too much to ask for.

marc


Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 22:54:01 -0800 (PST)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Xeikon and Cutter
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

You have gotten every consideration possible! Do Not talk to me like this! I have a running bill for your 1 1/2 horses totally about $15,000. DO NOT act like I am doing nothing here. I am carrying a huge burden with that!

Scar tissue is a big deal! If you can't understand that - I am sorry; it is not a decision for me to make, it is for potential buyers. At this point it is not going to happen. Yes, he can jump, but no he is not going to get sold with his leg like that.

AGAIN, I already told you Silco needs to go back to Europe. I am looking for a suitable replacement. I HAVE ALREADY TOLD YOU THIS. You somehow think this is so easy. IT TAKES TIME!! I received a video of horses, I didn't like any of them; I am not going to send him back and get something that isn't going to be saleable. I did not make you spend your savings on horses. I would never have let someone spend every penny they had on an investment of any kind - I don't care what it is. Do NOT put this off on me - I own half of Silco too- I hate it, but all I can do is keep making it better.

And no Mark, I do not have the means to just buy you out - if I did why in the world would I look for outside investors?? I have considered your offers and am trying to move on them. I (unlike you) try to THINK things through. I do not react at the spur of a moment. I try to look at the big picture. I am sorry you thought this was a get rich fast scenario. It is a very profitable business, but as with anything good - it isn't always like clockwork. I can not believe someone like you does investments at all. Do you watch the stock market fluctuate?

I am trying to be proactive here. Talking to me like this and constantly distracting me from my work is not the solution. I was open to your suggestions, and am waiting for a response from the bank. Having a temper tantrum is not going to make them any more helpful nor speady.

I am not sure what you would like me to tell you on a daily basis. When I have something that is actually happening - I WILL let you know! NOTHING HAS HAPPENED other than there is a deadly virus killing horses and farms are on lockdown. Chances are likely the state is not going to let anything happen until they are sure it is completely contained.

You are not hearing that Flemming is doing great because that would be a stretch! He is better but not GREAT! He is not going to get bought until he is 100%. I KNOW I have said that at least a handful of times! I do not feel the need for constant repetition - it has not changed. I also told you he had new shoes on and it may take 30 days for him to be able to wear normal shoes again. He isn't going to get sold until that happens. AGAIN, I KNOW we discussed this on the phone. You wanting things to be different, doesn't necessarily make them that way.

If you would like me to continue to work on getting you out of this, we need a better approach. I understand the need to check in and welcome it, but I am not going to respond daily to the personal attacks. I want to remind you again, there is an outstanding balance of ~ $15,000 (includes the vet bill that you will get reimbursed for). I have done nothing to put undo pressure on you about that (which is a courtesy) and was trying to figure a way to absorb that in the arrangement we are trying to make. These scenarios will be impossible to implement if we can't communicate better.

Last week on the phone, you said if I could give you $25K, you would finance the rest over two years; these are the types of things I thought about, and then approached my bank about it; we discussed several scenarios. I am anxiously awaiting the feedback to see how we can proceed - that is all I can tell you at this point. AGAIN, you have already gotten that information!! YOU KNOW AS MUCH AS I DO!

If this turns out to be a loss for you it is simply because you have no patience - had I known this prior to getting started, I would have said this is not for you. I have turned other people away - it would not be the first time. Getting angry and having a fit does not provide a viable solution. It does not make the horses feel better faster, and it doesn't erase time.

I also thought we had established a plan of action when we last spoke on the phone! I HAVE MOVED FORWARD WITH THAT! I HAVE LEVELED with you every step of the way! I also, feel I have given you ample time and explanation as to what gones on with those horses. You want everything to be black and white, and it just is not. I can't make it that way. Horses have a lot of gray area.

I hope this concludes the portions of the emails with this tone. I look forward to helping you get out of this and into something else more suitable for you. I am doing everything I can to wrap this up. As I said before I am happy to own both horses, just trying to find a way the bank will allow me to.

Heather


Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 05:34:35 -0800 (PST)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Xeikon and Cutter
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Been too stressed to deal with this... I going to the gym, will reply when I get back. Surely Dood should have a yea or nea for you today be sure & let me know.


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Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:10:51 -0800 (PST)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Xeikon and Cutter
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Response in blue

You have gotten every consideration possible! Do Not talk to me like this! I have a running bill for your 1 1/2 horses totally about $15,000. DO NOT act like I am doing nothing here. I am carrying a huge burden with that!

Scar tissue is a big deal! If you can't understand that - I am sorry; it is not a decision for me to make, it is for potential buyers. At this point it is not going to happen. Yes, he can jump, but no he is not going to get sold with his leg like that.

You said that you were going to look for medical records thinking that it might be an old injury that should be of no concerns. You also said that you were going to show him anyway, and bring up the scarred tissue to prospective buyers. I was not talking about your current buyer, I considered him a dead issue a while ago.
AGAIN, I already told you Silco needs to go back to Europe. I am looking for a suitable replacement. I HAVE ALREADY TOLD YOU THIS. You somehow think this is so easy. IT TAKES TIME!! I received a video of horses, I didn't like any of them; I am not going to send him back and get something that isn't going to be saleable. I did not make you spend your savings on horses. I would never have let someone spend every penny they had on an investment of any kind - I don't care what it is. Do NOT put this off on me - I own half of Silco too- I hate it, but all I can do is keep making it better

Sorry! You said that you were going to get a replacement AND that you may be able to keep Silco so you can try to sell it...... You DID NOT say that he definitely was going back.

BUT anyway, if he is going back as you say, why do you still have him? kind of "Beating a dead horse" don't you think... wasting money on daycare for something that you have to send back...

We've discussed the money issue on Silco. I sent you an email telling you that I could probably spare up to $25K but only for a very short time...
I remember joking that I would probalby have to come and live in the barn with the horse... Didn't that Pop up Red Flags at all?

considering that half of Silco was costing $37,500. and I told you that I could spare about $25k, (saving money for Flemmngh's daycare) only for a very short time... I did spend the extra money because you led me to believe that it was a done deal, that you had a immediate buyer for it...
I wouldn't have jumped into that deal had you told me that it would take over 90 days to get it sold (and we didn't even sell it yet)
And no Mark, I do not have the means to just buy you out - if I did why in the world would I look for outside investors?? I have considered your offers and am trying to move on them. I (unlike you) try to THINK things through. I do not react at the spur of a moment. I try to look at the big picture. I am sorry you thought this was a get rich fast scenario. It is a very profitable business, but as with anything good - it isn't always like clockwork. I can not believe someone like you does investments at all. Do you watch the stock market fluctuate?

A) I don't do the stock market! don't believe in it. Ironically, I do have some stock with my wife from the company she works for. But unlike the horses, stocks are long term, you buy it and forget it.....

B) I don't do investments like this ( that I don't know anything about) ever. I trusted you, and your representations that (from your first email) it should be wrapped up by the end of august. But I did allow 60 to 90 days which have elapsed.... and I remember clearly discussing "what if" the horse got hurt (broke a leg for instance) and we couldn't sell it

You told me that nothing ever happens to the horses, they basically just sit in the barn, and do a little exercise once a day......

You also represented that worst case, the insrance would buy the horse from me at a little less than cost and they would dispose of it... Well, FYI that won't happen.

THOSE are the representations (and trust in you ) that I based my investment on..... I'm not stupid, just too damn trusting.

C) I just wanted to know if you at least had a down payment of $25 to 50K as I had already offered to hold a note for up to $125k

The question was: did you have a down payment or did you have to borrow that? or were you going to try & borrow the whole amount, or were you going to borrow $125k from the bank and let me secure it with a cd? I still dont' know which your trying to do
I am trying to be proactive here. Talking to me like this and constantly distracting me from my work is not the solution. I was open to your suggestions, and am waiting for a response from the bank. Having a temper tantrum is not going to make them any more helpful nor speady.

I am not sure what you would like me to tell you on a daily basis. When I have something that is actually happening - I WILL let you know! NOTHING HAS HAPPENED other than there is a deadly virus killing horses and farms are on lockdown. Chances are likely the state is not going to let anything happen until they are sure it is completely contained.

Yes, I finally heard about the virus on the news.
You are not hearing that Flemming is doing great because that would be a stretch! He is better but not GREAT! He is not going to get bought until he is 100%. I KNOW I have said that at least a handful of times! I do not feel the need for constant repetition - it has not changed. I also told you he had new shoes on and it may take 30 days for him to be able to wear normal shoes again. He isn't going to get sold until that happens. AGAIN, I KNOW we discussed this on the phone. You wanting things to be different, doesn't necessarily make them that way.

OK, Ok.... I undesrtand 30 days , that puts him in the beginning of January...

If you would like me to continue to work on getting you out of this, we need a better approach. I understand the need to check in and welcome it, but I am not going to respond daily to the personal attacks. I want to remind you again, there is an outstanding balance of ~ $15,000 (includes the vet bill that you will get reimbursed for). I have done nothing to put undo pressure on you about that (which is a courtesy) and was trying to figure a way to absorb that in the arrangement we are trying to make. These scenarios will be impossible to implement if we can't communicate better.

There is no personal attacks, it's strictly business. Things aren't going as planned and I see my butt going down the tube.... and I'm freaking out big time. Naturally. Christmas is just a week away. I can't buy anything for anyone... I'm ambarassed to death. Emotionally stressed to the max. My stomach is constantly in knots... Other than that " I'm good "

Did you submit the necessary forms to the insurance co. I have not heard anything from them yet... I'll be happy to forward you the claim check... How much should it come to?

Yes, I assume that yo would absorb costs after the last bill I paid you, as I am forfeiting $50,000 in profits to make it more lucrative for you to buy me out...
Last week on the phone, you said if I could give you $25K, you would finance the rest over two years; these are the types of things I thought about, and then approached my bank about it; we discussed several scenarios. I am anxiously awaiting the feedback to see how we can proceed - that is all I can tell you at this point. AGAIN, you have already gotten that information!! YOU KNOW AS MUCH AS I DO!
If this turns out to be a loss for you it is simply because you have no patience - had I known this prior to getting started, I would have said this is not for you. I have turned other people away - it would not be the first time. Getting angry and having a fit does not provide a viable solution. It does not make the horses feel better faster, and it doesn't erase time.

I also thought we had established a plan of action when we last spoke on the phone! I HAVE MOVED FORWARD WITH THAT! I HAVE LEVELED with you every step of the way! I also, feel I have given you ample time and explanation as to what gones on with those horses. You want everything to be black and white, and it just is not. I can't make it that way. Horses have a lot of gray area.

Yes, I'm still standing with the plan we discussed, that you would come up with $25 to $50K and I would hold a note ammortized at 2 years (to keep the payments low), but that as you sold the horses, you would pay off the note as the horses are the colateral for the note...

I hope this concludes the portions of the emails with this tone. I look forward to helping you get out of this and into something else more suitable for you. I am doing everything I can to wrap this up. As I said before I am happy to own both horses, just trying to find a way the bank will allow me to.

OK, well, you submitted applications last Tuesday, I don't know how much you were trying to get, but it seems that you should have had an answer by now.....

Marc
Heather


Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 19:36:57 -0800 (PST)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Xeikon and Cutter
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

I was typing you an email when I received yours.

I went to the bank with open eyes, trying to get them to give us as many options as possible. I can probably do something with the bank as soon as the virus is over. I don't qualify for any real loans as my business account has not been open 6 months - timing is truly everything! He did however feel like if they could hold an insurance policy on the horses, he would be comfortable doing some type of line of credit for my business - small but next to no interest. This will allow me to make monthly payments to you. The insurance company will not issue any new policies for anything south of Orlando, until this virus is under control. The horses got vaccinated last Wednesday and had been vaccinated in October so we are not concerned.

The scar tissue makes everyone I have talked to about the horse uncomfortable. People agree to lease him for six months with a buy out option, but this is too risky for us. What if that horse isn't ok in six months - we are right back to where we started; feeding a horse endlessly - not a good plan. He is going back to Europe when it is safe to travel again and when I can get him on a flight.

Insurance forms have been submitted. I talked to an adjuster the week of thanksgiving, we were waiting on one more piece of paperwork. I would think you would have that payment soon. I am in the same boat - no money for Christmas, it sucks and I am sorry you are in that boat as well. I can't really help with your stress level other than telling you again - I am doing everything to get this done for you - it just doesn't seem to be fast enough.

I have two meetings tomorrow; maybe something great will transpire - I will let you know if it does; otherwise I am on hold until after the holidays I think. I spend all of my extra time talking to people and emailing people about business loans, etc. You will be the first to benefit from anything promising like that.

Heather


Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 06:49:18 -0800 (PST)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Xeikon and Cutter
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

OK:

Let's do this:

I will hold the note with Nothing down, but with 3 horses as colateral. Your 2 and Flemmingh. You can pay off the note over the 2 year period as long as I have title to 3 horses at all time. If you sell a horse and don't have a replacement horse of the same value, then you pay 1/3 of the note off, but if you have a replacement horse, you just continue with monthly payments.

Interest will be comparable to what Bank of America would charge (prime + 12% or so) and the terms of the loans would be the same... you first payment would be due on the first of Jan 2007.

I'll have my attorney write up a formal agreement...

Can you work with this?


Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 09:47:45 -0800 (PST)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Xeikon and Cutter
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

That could totally work.

Let me know what the monthly payment will be so I can make sure I can swing that. I need the terms spelled out for me. The interest sounds high.

Heather


Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 11:18:42 -0800 (PST)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Xeikon and Cutter
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

OK, I'm going to the bank now to get an agreement and find out what the rates are ... Yes, the rate will be high because of the coleteral.

If a lender has to forclose on horses, then he has to board & feed them until he can dispose of them to recoup his loan amount... Who want to do that?

It's not good colateral. Real estate colateral on the other hand would get you a petty decent rate.... it's relatively easy to dispose.


Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 14:18:46 -0800 (PST)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Xeikon and Cutter
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

a lender? I thought you were holding the note? I am not going to be on the hook for a ridiculously high interest rate. This is to help you out of this.

Heather


Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 15:45:23 -0800 (PST)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Xeikon and Cutter
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Yes, I am holding the note: You're not reading. I'm saying that a lender would charge a much higher rate (if he accepted horses as collateral ) because forclosing on horses meant that the lender woud have the expense of feeding & boarding them.

I spoke to my brance manager, she suggested at least 21% but didn't recommend it....

I would work with Prime as stated in the Wall Street Journal + 9.99% (which is very fair) ammortized at 3 years. The payments would be $6,347.76. per month.

If you put a down payment, the monthly would be reduced considerably.

All other terms & conditions would be the same as a Bank of America Business Credit Express line of credit. You an get a brochure at a B of A branch.

I would include 1/2 the cost of drawing the agreement.

Conditions that are not in the B of A agreement is the collateral which as mentioned before, you would keep 3 horses as collateral. You could sell any the horses and either pay off its collateral share (1/3) of the note or just replace it with another horse of the same value (for collateral) and just maintain the regular payments until the end of the term.

Of course you could pay more than 1/3 of the note if you sold a horse to reduce the loan, therefore reducing interest.

I think the interest rate is more than fair. NO lender is going to lend you on the horses, they all want real estate.... but hey, if you can get a better loan somewhere else, you can pay of the balance of my note at anytime...

This way, you get to work with your capital when you sell a horse besides, I've already forfeited $50,000 of my expected profits doesn't that count for something?

Let me know so I can have the agreement drawn up
thank.


Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 11:14:40 -0800 (PST)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: insurance
To:ebaytradenews@yahoo.com

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

I contacted great american about the insurance; that is drafted from my account - I had not received anyone's check this month, and was trying not to panic, but it has crossed in the mail. A cancellation notice was generated, but it is fine. I arranged for $1021.32 to come out of my account next week. So if you get something - you can disregard. They just have to have the 1021.32 by January 2. It is taken care of - guess it won't be your problem much longer, but didn't want you to panic.

Heather


Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 18:39:22 -0800 (PST)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: loan
To:ebaytradenews@yahoo.com

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

Mark - you need to do the math on this. There is no way I will agree to pay you $228,000 to HELP you out of this. When you talked about financing this - I took that to mean paying you back the money you put into this plus a SMALL profit.

You have put $137,544.83 into this project. That divided into 36 monthly payments is: $3,820.69. We discussed you making a $25,000 profit which I would also consider as something that is a reasonable option. That comes to: $162,544.83 and that divided into 36 monthly payments is: $4,515.14.

I will still have to cover the monthly cost of the horses! Me taking on that loan payment and this option to help YOU will put my monthly budget (burden) at $27,000 - (and that is for the 4515.14). I am in no way going to consider anything higher than that.

I also do not feel the need to put up one of my horses as collateral. This is your deal - we can work with your horses. My horses have nothing to do with this. Again I am helping you find a solution. I am happy to take over the horses, but not to give you money so I can lose money. Don't forget I already have $15,000 in your horses. That would put me up to $240,000 - it is just not happening.

Truthfully I don't care what prime is, I don't care what your branch manager told you, this is not an average lending deal. This is me HELPING you secure gettting your money back. If you want to do this on a personal level that is fine. Otherwise I will pass. I have no interest in signing anything where the interest rate is that high. Wachovia will lend a LOC at 8.2%. I know this for a fact as a friend just had one processed in the last 30 days!

I am not sure why you think I should pay for you to lose your "expected profit" when I am the one willing to take the risk. You only make money on investments if you see the deal through. If you bought a piece of land to resell and the market went south for a while - If you cut and run - you would lose money. The people that sit it out and have some patience are there when things turn around - they make the money. I am NOT paying you $228,000 over the next three years for the $137,544.83 you put in. I might as well go out on the street and give money away. Private lending does NOT work that way.

You need to put some of this on paper - read it before you suggest it. That is crazy - This is all to HELP YOU.

Heather


Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 07:44:51 -0800 (PST)
From:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: loan
To:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>

Marc Buck ebaytradenews@yahoo.com wrote:

Not a problem!

do explain the $15,000 bill


Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 11:06:22 -0800 (PST)
From:"lela belle" <lelabelleh@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: loan
To:"Marc Buck" <ebaytradenews@yahoo.com>

lela belle lelabelleh@yahoo.com wrote

I have attached the second half of the November bill for both horses. Also attached is the December bill. Add that to Flemming's vet bill of 8,035 = 17,728.57 (so $15,000 estimate was on the low side). I attached the bills so you could see it all, and I think you should have a copy of Flemmings bill -

Thanks
Heather